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December 15th, 2004   Post 1
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Post; Neutrals in WW2


If the European neutrals such as Sweden,Turkey,Spain, and Switzerland did not stay neutral, what sides do you think they would join and how much of an effect do you think theywould have on the outcome of the war?
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December 15th, 2004   Post 2
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Spain would have taken Germany's side. Anything else would have been stupid prior to 1944. Sweden and Switzerland? Tough call. Turkey would have probably joined with Germany if anyone.
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December 15th, 2004   Post 3
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Spain was going to join Hitler but some diferences made it a no go.


Switzerland actualy did aid the nazi's such as building things for them and hidding thier wealth so they would have went Germany. Swededn probably would have gone with The Allies since it had saw Germany invade it's nieghbors, and Turkey probably would have went with NG for defensive reasons.
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December 16th, 2004   Post 4
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Turkey would go with Germany most because of a long and bitter history with Russia. They'd never have sided with any alliance that included Russia/USSR.
 
December 16th, 2004   Post 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcia
Spain was going to join Hitler but some diferences made it a no go.


Switzerland actualy did aid the nazi's such as building things for them and hidding thier wealth so they would have went Germany. Swededn probably would have gone with The Allies since it had saw Germany invade it's nieghbors, and Turkey probably would have went with NG for defensive reasons.
Yea Switzerland was Germany's main trade outlet. Many of the neutral nations such as Sweden,Turkey and Spain wanted to trade with Germany for economic reason but did not want the political ties with Germany because of their aggresiveness. That's where Switzerland came in and traded in swiss currency with Germany's money which gave Switzerland and Germany alot of profit.Switzerland also held most of the German plunder such as artwork etc.
 
December 17th, 2004   Post 6
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Switzerland was basicly the forgotten Axis power, they even produced a few tanks for um.



Switzerland was able to do this cause Germany didn't want to try to make it through those mountains.
 
December 24th, 2004   Post 7
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Spain realized that the last thing they needed was to go to war, since they had a country to rebuild. However they did join the Reich by allowing the formation of the Blau Div.

As a neutral country, they understood that a debt was owed for Germany's assistance in the civil war. There was a mutual respect, between AH and Franco, one of the many reasons AH never invaded Spain. AH also respected the Spanish soldier, so much , the 25oth was the only Div. AH commissioned a medal for them.

Gen. Franco had no plans to re-create the Spanish Empire, he could have started with Portugal if that was the case. Therefore he was not the classic Facista, as many tend to believe. As promised to Nixon, he re-instituted the Crown, and created a Middle-Class, both non-existant in 30's and 40's.

The Swiss also had contracts to manufacture items for the Germans,

Bare in mind that many of the countries that were also occupied, had their own NS parties, and many had no problems witht he Germans being there, it was not until the Allied Countries decided to fund terrorist organizations (they were called Partisans those days) that things started to get bad.
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December 24th, 2004   Post 8
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Well, the problem for the Swiss was simple -- how do you go about business as usual (trade and commerce, etc) when you are completely surrounded by nations held by one side?? You trade with the one side. If its weapons they're buying, you'd sell them weapons. If its watches, sell them watches.
 
December 24th, 2004   Post 9
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Turkey declared war on Germany in Feb 45.
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December 25th, 2004   Post 10
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Turkey declared war on Germany in Feb 45.
"Jumping on the bandwagon". Never a more obvious case of it. There were several nations who jumped in when the outcome was obvious. I find it to be quite funny really.