About The Mysterious Iranian Threat Page 4
|June 1st, 2012||#31|
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Last edited by hamidreza; June 1st, 2012 at 08:57..
|June 1st, 2012||#32|
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You are using wars that don't fit as examples, Monty. Nuclear weapons only serve as defense and yes they will certainly have a "keep them guessing" policy if they decide to get nukes. This occured with U.S and the Soviets:
"Is U.S going to intervene directly if I do this?"
"Are the Soviets going to intervene if I do this?"
Hell, we had to tell the Soviets that we meant no advances on them before we went into Vietnam and they had to tell us they would not intervene if we went to save South Korea during the Korean War.
Yes: Nuclear weapons certainly have a "keep them guessing" policy as no one will risk attacking a nuclear state because they won't know if they would use nukes first.
I think you were the one drinking if you thought I said they were a threat. I already said in other threads that I do not believe Iran is a direct threat to U.S even if they had nukes. I just don't believe they should obtain them simply because of NPT which is how they got their nuclear technology in the first place.
"You was always telling Iran will use nukes to wipe out Israel" - This is incorrect. I never stated anything of the sort. I am not sure if Iran would be stupid enough to use nuclear weapons IF it obtains one. I do not believe Iran is trying to obtain it either at this moment.
The fact is Iran signed NPT so they are not allowed to gain nuclear weapons. Why do you believe India never signed NPT? "because it allowed nuclear states to keep their nuclear weapons and those that aren't nuclear will not be able to obtain one" according to them. Once Iran signed NPT it was fate that the U.N would complain if they suspected wishes for nuclear weapons, as the technology was shared.
|June 1st, 2012||#33|
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Now IAEA is suspected to our nuclear activities and we suspected to their independence and honestly. They say we may use enrichment technology to make nukes in future and we say they haven't helped us in nuclear knowledge, they haven't sold us the 20% enriched uranium, they follow the west policies and their behavior is political not legal. they don't trust us and we don't trust them so isn't it a good decision if we cut our relation with IAEA like a couple who want to divorce? the same as Israel. So there will be no question, there will be no supervision and we also won't request and disturb them for any help!
Another question. why the countries who are member of IAEA,except that west, don't have nuclear technology? all of technology that one of them is enrichment technology. they don't need or there some news is behind the scenes we are not aware?
Last edited by hamidreza; June 1st, 2012 at 17:25..
|June 1st, 2012||#34|
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Fascism is nationalistic. Tribalism to small to expand. Only Islam expanded through military means. Their military expansion was halted twice in Europe. The Turks were beaten at the doors of Vienna and the mighty Islamic Cavalry was beaten by the Frankish infantery in France.
|June 1st, 2012||#35|
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A nuclear free world (I think that we all want that) will not happen. The conventional American forces are to strong for Russia or China to become non nuclear powers.
IF we had a nuclear free world, sooner or later someone would build the bom and the race would start again.
The more nuclear powers the higher the chance for a nuclear war.
On January 25, 1995 a scientific Norwegian rocket alsmost started armageddon. The Norwegians informed everyone of the launch but the Russians didn't do anything with it so the Russian military thought is was a US first strike and asked permission to Jeltsin to retaliate. Fortunately Jeltsin was 100% sure that the US wouldn't do such a thing and forbid a retaliation. Ever wondered what would have happened to the world if the Russians would have retaliated?
The Iranian military nuclear program? It's outside the control of the government. The forces working on it are under direct control of the clerics.
Is the IAEA and the 5+1 group in talks with the clerics or the Iranian government?
Last but not least, a Muslim is allowed to lie to a non muslim (taqiyya and kitman).
|June 1st, 2012||#36|
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Unlike Spike I know when an argument isn't worth fighting because your opponent clearly can't see the forest for the trees so please for your own benefit go away re-read those history books but this time try opening both eyes then perhaps we can have intelligent discussion on these issues rather than an ideological one.
In short please accept that I probably won't be responding to any more of your posts on this issue not because I agree or you have defeated me but because I think you are so blinded by your own idealogical issues that it is not worth responding.
We are more often treacherous through weakness than through calculation. ~Francois De La Rochefoucauld
Last edited by MontyB; June 1st, 2012 at 21:47..
|June 1st, 2012||#37|
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The different ideologies have not spread peacefully; further, you cannot compare social ideologies with theological ideologies. Capitalism is not an ideology, it is an economic system and so is Communism, which has never occurred.
Entrepreneurs are simply those who understand that there is little difference between obstacle and opportunity and are able to turn both to their advantage.
|June 2nd, 2012||#38|
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VDKMS didn't really want to have a comparison among different isms or ideologies. he just was looking for an opportunity to say somethings against Islam or shi.
Last edited by hamidreza; June 2nd, 2012 at 05:22..
|June 2nd, 2012||#39|
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He's a total waste of space, an oxygen thief.
"I am totally responsible for what I write,... however I cannot be held responsible for your complete inability to understand"
Last edited by senojekips; June 2nd, 2012 at 06:56..
|June 2nd, 2012||#40|
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And thus the world keeps turning....
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