The funny thing is that minorities have no rights in Islamic countries and yet leftists want to accomodate Islamists in the western socieities

Not only minorities. Women as well. Phoenix, like I said, we're dealing with some of the most closed minded, intolerant people in modern times and perhaps even in history (whereras most others have grown out of the whole intolerance thing, they're still neck deep in it). To accommodate their intolerance in our own societies to the point of making them official law is absolutely unacceptable.
Also when it comes to openness and tolerance, you can't get any more open and tolerant than Sweden. Whatever charges there are to Christianity regarding its history, Sweden shouldn't be paying for that. You might ask the Vatican to, but not Sweden.

Originally Posted by MontyB

Well I had a long a detailed speech prepared but in the end its easier to just say screw them.

Laws should be made with the rights of individuals in mind not the wishes of religions (any religion).

Agreed Muslims need to get a grip. Next if they can it will be a demand for Sharia law in all western countries because muslims answer to Allah not the law

Hmmm, seems Allah comes in several different calibers.

Originally Posted by bulldogg

Hmmm, seems Allah comes in several different calibers.

Callahbers, perhaps?

Originally Posted by 03USMC

Agreed Muslims need to get a grip. Next if they can it will be a demand for Sharia law in all western countries because muslims answer to Allah not the law

This is one of our up-coming problems here, already. Our 2nd city Birmingham is just about losing its indigineous majority, and Leicester has already gone. I believe it is true that in the north of England Sharia law is already used for some matters. Folks, you are now looking at the destruction and disappearance of England, through political immigration and the EU.

I do not hold extreme views, I am a calm, experienced, lover of my fellow man old Englishman, and I have seen and recognised our Trojan horse for a long time. We have been completely sold down the river since 1997, and it is now a fast flow. Other countries should take note and tread warily; cling to your own cultures and democratic foundations.

Originally Posted by bulldogg

Hmmm, seems Allah comes in several different calibers.

Indeed, he does!

Since they cannot win directly in battle, they use leftist do-gooders who sympathize anyone who feigns weakness in order to change our laws over to satisfy their intolerance.
It's funny because the people in inadvertently support this are some of the MOST open minded people in society who tolerate all, yet in the end they end up helping some of the most intolerant people settle in and take over. It's quite ironic really.
Sometimes the majority need to sit down and question whether or not it is THEY who are under threat and in danger of losing their freedom and rights.

Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck

Since they cannot win directly in battle, they use leftist do-gooders who sympathize anyone who feigns weakness in order to change our laws over to satisfy their intolerance.
It's funny because the people in inadvertently support this are some of the MOST open minded people in society who tolerate all, yet in the end they end up helping some of the most intolerant people settle in and take over. It's quite ironic really.
Sometimes the majority need to sit down and question whether or not it is THEY who are under threat and in danger of losing their freedom and rights.

"If you dont stand for something, you'll fall for anything."

Last 2 posts - yes exactly.