Theres a thread about the UN in the discussion post.

http://www.military-quotes.com/forum...4286&start=120

Theres nothing wrong with the Beret. Theres no need to attack it.
Your not that sad are you?

I don't mind the beret at all. Just out in the field, I'd rather be wearing a helmet. After all, you'll be doing a lot of stuff that you'd want a helmet for, even without the bullets flying.

Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck

I don't mind the beret at all. Just out in the field, I'd rather be wearing a helmet. After all, you'll be doing a lot of stuff that you'd want a helmet for, even without the bullets flying.

Dude whats gona fall on you in sand?
Whats gona hit you with enough speed to crack your skull that isnt a bullet in the desert?

Originally Posted by devilwasp

Dude whats gona fall on you in sand?
Whats gona hit you with enough speed to crack your skull that isnt a bullet in the desert?

As if the bullet isn't enough .. a lot of things.

Originally Posted by RnderSafe

As if the bullet isn't enough .. a lot of things.

Like what?

Birds, I always wear one to the pub

Well if you are from a place of dense forests, hills, valleys, riverbeds etc. you'll know. You can slip, you can fall and hit your head. Not to mention, there is heavy equipment and stuff in the works too in many places. Just be smart and wear a helmet. If you take a trek through a rainforest with uneven ground and without trails a helmet can come quite in handy (of course we mean those construction type hats mostly).
And what's up with that idiotic attitude anyways? Well if sand is the only terrain you'll ever fight on, then by all means, scrap the helmet... it's probably too hot anyways. But there are a lot of places you can be where just wearing a helmet can avoid injury. Plus do your homework. Not all deserts are soft beach sand. There's hard terrain... some look like the surface of Mars. There's sometimes mesas, dry river beds (that can flood without notice), canyons, creeks, etc. In some places it looks perfectly flat, like a good place to send your tanks over, but the dry layer is thin and when it cracks, everything under it is MUD. Besides, if you find yourself conducting a military operation on a sand dune, chances are you're in the wrong place.
Nothing that hits you needs to be as fast as a bullet. It just needs to be hard enough to crack your skull or cause a concussion to put you in jeapordy.

Basically the point is, when out in the field, the helmet is more practical than the berret.

Originally Posted by devilwasp

Dude whats gona fall on you in sand?
Whats gona hit you with enough speed to crack your skull that isnt a bullet in the desert?

Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck

Well if you are from a place of dense forests, hills, valleys, riverbeds etc. you'll know. You can slip, you can fall and hit your head. Not to mention, there is heavy equipment and stuff in the works too in many places. Just be smart and wear a helmet. If you take a trek through a rainforest with uneven ground and without trails a helmet can come quite in handy (of course we mean those construction type hats mostly).

Firstly i am meaning sand, the above stuff is a good idea but since you will most likely be moveing slowly why would you be wearing a helmet , most likely be wearin a beenie or a head and shoulder set.

And what's up with that idiotic attitude anyways? Well if sand is the only terrain you'll ever fight on, then by all means, scrap the helmet... it's probably too hot anyways.

The idiotic attitude? now i am being insulted thanks alot.
Well the last couple of wars have been in sand, and from the looks of it our forces will be fighting on sand for a while atleast.

But there are a lot of places you can be where just wearing a helmet can avoid injury. Plus do your homework. Not all deserts are soft beach sand. There's hard terrain... some look like the surface of Mars. There's sometimes mesas, dry river beds (that can flood without notice), canyons, creeks, etc.

Yeah but are you going to wear a helmet to cross over some rock formations or are you going to wear light desert camo?

In some places it looks perfectly flat, like a good place to send your tanks over, but the dry layer is thin and when it cracks, everything under it is MUD. Besides, if you find yourself conducting a military operation on a sand dune, chances are you're in the wrong place.

So desert fighting is in the wrong place?
Oh sorry chaps wrong place to fight everybody into the 8 tonners!

Nothing that hits you needs to be as fast as a bullet. It just needs to be hard enough to crack your skull or cause a concussion to put you in jeapordy.

Being in a combat zone puts you in jeapordy, getting hurt in the combat zone increases it ten fold. I agree here though.

Basically the point is, when out in the field, the helmet is more practical than the berret.

I wouldnt count on that, a beret is light weight and comfertable, inspires confidence as well. The helmet is good in cases but so is the beret.

Maybe the confidence bit but really, if it is practical to wear a berret, it's probably practical to have no hat at all.

Also I meant, if you're sitting on a sand dune, chances are you're in the wrong place. Combat will almost never take place in such a place. Except maybe if you're a part of a SF team on a dune buggy trying to get a short cut.

Plus the recent wars haven't been on soft sand. It's either been on flat ground or urban situations. And I think in an urban warfare setting, you'd want a helmet with you. Like I said, the desert is a very diverse place. If it becomes impractical to be wearing a helmet, you can just take it off and have it hanging off your body. Actually, I really don't know of a military campaign that took place on soft sand deserts.

"Dude whats gona fall on you in sand?
Whats gona hit you with enough speed to crack your skull that isnt a bullet in the desert?"
That's what I mean by idiotic attitude.
It doesn't have to fall on you, you could very well fall on it.
Oh, personal story time. While I was trekking in the jungle ... usually I did not wear helmets but that one day I went with a different group and they issued helmets. And boy was I glad they did because by sheer bad luck when we stopped to, rest, regroup etc. a branch fell on my head. And the canopy was high too.

Have you ever been shot at Devil wasp?? no of course not because you are not in the military yet... Listen man, forget what you have heard in cadets, and listen to people that have been in the ****... Your helmet can save your life