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August 16th, 2007   #41
senojekips
 
 
Islam is closer to Christianity per se, than say the Mormon religion is to that preached by the "Catholic" church. Their views are different, but no more radical.

Being different does not necessarily imply that they are bad people.


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August 17th, 2007   #42
mmarsh
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
Islam is closer to Christianity per se, than say the Mormon religion is to that preached by the "Catholic" church. Their views are different, but no more radical.

Being different does not necessarily imply that they are bad people.

Of course not, what irks me the most is that some people especially on the far right tend to demonize ALL Muslims. In fact most Muslims are very decent people. Its just a scant few of extremists that are worrisome, and its not like Christianity isn't without its share of religious fruitcakes either. The only real deference is that most Christian radicals in the US haven't selected overt violence to press home their views, although I am sure that merely a question of time.

I think its entirely possible that the next 9-11 will come from within the USA...


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August 17th, 2007   #43
The Other Guy
 
 
It would not surprise me if I was to see a "retaliation" by a Christian Fundamentalist group...

The scant few can make the way many look really bad.


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August 17th, 2007   #44
mmarsh
 
 
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Originally Posted by The Other Guy
It would not surprise me if I was to see a "retaliation" by a Christian Fundamentalist group...

The scant few can make the way many look really bad.

I wonder if they would be added to the known terrorists group?
 
August 17th, 2007   #45
senojekips
 
 
IMO Being either Christian or Muslim is of little consequence, what needs watching are those who describe themselves as "Fundamentalists" as this implies that there is no middle ground in their beliefs.

I would rather describe them as "Crazies", on both sides. Religious Pathogens if you will who only promote intolerance, which in itself flies in the face of all Christian beliefs that I know of..
 
August 17th, 2007   #46
Gator
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mmarsh
I wonder if they would be added to the known terrorists group?

Depends on who is in the White House at the time, in my own opinion.

There are those who put their god before the Nation, and even those who say their god owns not only this Naton, but strangely enough the entire Earth.... even though other sections of the Planet seem to follow a different god en masse.

As for Islam and Christianity being on the same page and having the same god, well that would make the Christian god schizophrenic.

I'm not saying the god of Islam is not real, I'm just saying the god of Islam is not the same as my God, and my God has already said I am not to put other gods before him, as their are many other gods, but my God wants me to put him first. I also believe Muslims should put their god first, and I believe such is a tenet of their faith.
I sure as hell do not want them crossing over to my Religion, as I believe they would just mess everything up.


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August 17th, 2007   #47
Missileer
 
 
I remember a History Channel program concerning the Mormon (Church of Latter Day Saints) Church and how some members made a deal with local Indian tribes in Utah to lead settlers into ambushes. The Mormons would meet the wagons and give them food and provisions and promise to guide them on through the territory. The Indians would catch the settlers off guard and torture, kill, and butcher the Men and Women and keep only the children they needed as slaves or trade.
When someone escaped and got back to the nearest Fort, the Army went into Utah territory and cleared the area of Indians but executed only one Mormon, the speaker who was recognized by the escapee.

I've never been able to completely forgive that particular religion for the slaughter sanctioned all the way up the heirarchy of the church of innocent people, their own countrymen. I don't trust many organized religions created of, by, and for people.





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August 17th, 2007   #48
senojekips
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Missileer
I don't trust many organized religions created of, by, and for people*.
*and Money, Money, Money!!! I have noticed that these "religions" never seem to benefit the needy.
 
August 17th, 2007   #49
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
*and Money, Money, Money!!! I have noticed that these "religions" never seem to benefit the needy.
Do any religions?

I recall two statements although I can never remember who they are attributed to:

1 - Never trust a religion that demands a financial commitment before a moral one.

2 - Even the poorest of towns seemed to afford the grandest of cathedrals. (This was from a book on personal observations of combat photographers from WW2).


We are more often treacherous through weakness than through calculation. ~Francois De La Rochefoucauld
 
August 17th, 2007   #50
The Other Guy
 
 
I noticed. However these cathedrals were often made by the citizens of the town for very little money (to the citizens or the church).
 



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