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October 12th, 2004   Post 11
westwater
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I don't think china is the main weapon supplier to Iran and Iraq.In 1980's china have supplied some weapons to them ,but liittle .Russia and usa are main supplier
 
October 12th, 2004   Post 12
FlyingFrog
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Originally Posted by westwater
I don't think china is the main weapon supplier to Iran and Iraq.In 1980's china have supplied some weapons to them ,but liittle .Russia and usa are main supplier
We are talking about Pakistan, not Iraq.

China just signed a deal to supply Pakistan 4 FFG's.

Auto Translation from Chinese:
Pakistan introduces the Chinese escort ship (FFG, translation not accurate)
Agence France Presse - the Pakistani navy spokesperson called China agreed sells 4 new escort ships to the Pakistan navy. This 750 million US dollar transactions technical detail negotiations already completed, was only left over the fund payment question not yet to discuss. These 4 escort ships have the newest technical equipment, has the anti-ship missile, the air defense equips, the torpedo and the anti-submarine warfare helicopter.
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OK, I got more detailed news:
China agrees 750 mln dlr deal to supply Pakistan with four frigates

KARACHI (AFP) Sep 15, 2004
Pakistan said Wednesday China has agreed to supply its navy with four frigates, with the 750 million-dollar deal all but completed pending financing discussions.

"The deal is complete as far as its technical details are concerned. We are now finalising the financing of the deal," Pakistan navy spokesman Commander Aamir Naeed told AFP.

"Pakistan is not looking for other options, because such selections are made after extensive studies and negotiations," he said.

The frigates, equipped with up-to-date technology, would carry surface-to-surface missiles, anti-aircraft guns, anti-air defence, torpedoes and anti-submarine warfare helicopters, he said.

The chief admiral of Pakistan's navy, Shahid Karimullah, said the frigates were acquired to strengthen a fleet that had "far lesser capabilities" compared with arch-rival India.

"There is a colossal disparity between the two countries and it is not to our liking."

He said while India had "no dearth" of weapons supplies from Russia, Pakistan's armed forces suffered due to sanctions imposed over Islamabad's nuclear programme in the 1990s.

The sanctions were lifted after Pakistan joined the US-led war on terror in the wake of the September 11 attacks in the United States.

Pakistan has since won a spate of economic and business incentives which helped President Pervez Musharraf steer the economy out of stagnation.

However Karimullah said despite lifting of the sanctions the country was facing difficulties in finalising defence deals with European countries.

"We are still feeling (the effects of sanctions) that is the reason why we have decided to go with China," the admiral said.

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October 13th, 2004   Post 13
Xion
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I don't think the russia supplies any military equipment to pakistan lmao as asian american said.
Yes, China is the main supplier to pakistan, and if ya'll have heard about pakistan developing indigenous missiles n tanks , is all BS.Its all China stuff newly painted by pakis roflmao.
Beleive Me. .They just wanna tussle with India and tryin to show the world that yeah if India can develop indigenous stuff we can too, just like their nuclear missiles testing ( thanks to china again ) which followed 6 months after India's.
 
October 13th, 2004   Post 14
SHERMAN
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Gear

Pakistna is not in the middle east. its in central asia.
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October 13th, 2004   Post 15
Chocobo_Blitzer
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Hmm I suppose it is, but it's culture is so middle-eastern.... to me.

I mean it reminds me of like, saying no, Australia isn't western, it's asian...
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October 15th, 2004   Post 16
FlyingFrog
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China is going to export 50 J-10 to Pakistan before 2007.
China has opened 3 production lines of J-10 since this year.

In the mean time China just signed a new 48 Su30MK2 deal with Russia, to be delivered before 2007 too.
 
October 15th, 2004   Post 17
Shadowalker
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I nwould imagine that iran and syria have to get a lot of there equipment from the black market, as with very few suppliers willing to deal with them, the black market is the best source. For Pakistan and Saudi Arabia i would think France, US, China, mainly
 
October 16th, 2004   Post 18
CMA2
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France, Germany, Russia

OUR allies?????????


FOOD for OIL, yeah right, OIL FOR GUNS is more like it
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October 16th, 2004   Post 19
SHERMAN
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Gear

Pakistan and Syria are not really big on Oil, neither is Egypt....Also, if by

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OUR allies?????????
You mean USA allies, let mwe remind you that the US suplied weapons to Iran and Iraq for oil not so far in the past, no to mention the sell of weaponary to Saudi Arabia and Egypt right now...Welcome to real-politics. Its not about whos right, its about who has cash.
 
October 16th, 2004   Post 20
Doc.S
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I say big reason for Egypt = Suez Canal the rest this article tells.

LINK:

http://www.unitedworld-usa.com/repor...pt/default.asp

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