Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck

I like this.

Originally Posted by senojekips

This reminds me too much of this:

well, there were no suicide bombers in west berlin, just freedom.

What suggestion(s) would you have that sound half way intelligent if I wanted to belly ache to someone?

In my opinion, that would depend a great deal on who you intend to talk to.

But bearing in mind the fact that the only people who could possibly actually do anything, are priced well out of your budget and already in the pockets of those hiring illegals, my real advice is to stay here and whinge to us. We can't do anything either, but at least we'll listen to you. We might even give you a pat on the back occasionally.

Originally Posted by senojekips

I wuz thinkin' more like this:


Redneck, I'm not real impressed with that guard post in your post. I reckon it could be a real bummer on a stormy winter's night.

It's a long border. And yeah, those places get COLD. Even with an electric heater it will freeze your nuts off.
That guard post is more nicely constructed than the stuff I had to stand in (although ours was actually bulletproof). Don't know about that one in the picture though. Don't even know exactly what it's guarding. I'm assuming it's somewhere up in the DMZ though.

Personally don't see what the big deal is with the Berlin Wall. It's a wall. It sorta prevents people from going from one side to the other. What's the big deal? There's a wall here with machine guns and all and life is good.

Jeez TOG, c'mon. The East Germans were only amateurs at wall building when you compare it with what the Israelis are doing. On a good day and with enough beer in, I could piddle over the Berlin wall. Given the chance, I would have been glad to try.

Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck

It's a long border. And yeah, those places get COLD. Even with an electric heater it will freeze your nuts off.
That guard post is more nicely constructed than the stuff I had to stand in (although ours was actually bulletproof). Don't know about that one in the picture though. Don't even know exactly what it's guarding. I'm assuming it's somewhere up in the DMZ though.

I'd say it's certainly on the DMZ, see that little party house about 800 yards to the front across the river. I'll bet if I were given a good pair of binoculars, I would see a pair of binoculars in there looking right back at me.

Sometimes it's not that obvious. You can have South Korean guard houses on either side of a river or something wider.

The problem with walls are significant though:

1) They cost an absolute fortune to build especially along a border the size of the US/Mexico one.

2) They are damned expensive to maintain and "garrison".

3) They are completely neutralised by people tunneling underneath them, flying over top of them or floating around them.

In the long term I am not sure its a very cost effective method border control in fact it would probably be cheaper to just give every Mexican $100 a year to stay at home.

However if you have your hearts set on a wall I personally like the big concrete one or maybe a replica of Hadrian's wall.

Any such defense wouldn't be 100% secure in the US/Mexico border but it would make life a lot harder and sure would make a "we crossed over by accident" look like some kind of sick joke.
Hmmm... you think we can make use of some of these damned weekend warrior militia types?