Agreed. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Hopeful

Originally Posted by ISLANDFOX

They should treat everyone exactly the same when it comes to the military- and I don't say this for the sake of "womens rights", I say this for the effectiveness of a fighting force. You don't want an entirely weaker section of your army, who wouldn't be allowed to even sign up if they were male and of the same level of fitness. If they can't handle the requirements, then don't let them join. Everyone should have the same standards that are needed, so if a woman is good enough, she can get in.

Sure, it'll mean some women can't get in, but some guys can't either, and the purpose of the military is not to make everyone feel special, it's to defend its country and kick some ass.

agreed

Originally Posted by hopefulfuturemarine

I don't care. I understand that women are naturally weaker than men, and that's why they have a lower level they have to meet in the service. But by God they scream for equality, right till we give it to 'em and they learn first hand every reason we kept them from it in the first place. They want to join just like a man, fine, But make them train just like one too.
Hopeful

I agree with you.

Equal opportunities suck ass big style. How can it be equal on the annual fitness test to make the men run to level 9.10 (minimum) on the bleep test and women only have to do level 6.4(minimum) why when it comes to press ups men are expected to do full press ups women do raised supported press ups.
Get a grip if they want to run and shoot with the boys they have to run and shoot with the boys.
And as for the drill and them having to lengthen their strides to keep up with the blokes B*****ks any decent drill instructor puts the short arses at the front and tall lanky gits like me match their stride not the other way round, because thats unrealistic. Someone half my height can probabally physically run faster than me, but because of my stride I could keep up with them.
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Rant over for now!!!!

Originally Posted by zyonchaos

Equal opportunities suck ass big style. How can it be equal on the annual fitness test to make the men run to level 9.10 (minimum) on the bleep test and women only have to do level 6.4(minimum)

What is the bleep test?

Females should know that You can fall out of hikes and runs, with little repercussions, and females do all the time. Usually a few males too.

Yeah you might be able to fall out of PT with little repercussions... But I would not want someone with that mentality advancing under fire next to me... Or withdrawing, or doing a close target recce or stalking an enemy O.P.... Get my meaning?

Gender in the military doesn't seem to be much of an issue, but rather whether the guy (or gal) next to you can do their part, since failure to do so could mean a loss of your life or your comrade's lives. The law about women in the service doesn't exist because of some male dominance agenda, but rather the fact that we need everyone to do their part to keep everyon alive.
Hopeful

When you gotta beat a man ,you gotta be a man.

All I am going to say on this issue is that women are built like cats and men are built like dogs. Meaning, women are smaller, lighter and more agile, men are bigger, stronger and tougher. (On average, don't give me the "But my 7 foot tall, female Scandinavian Olympian neighbor can jump clean over me b******t because that is not the norm.)

Obviously I am not going to be called sexist for saying something that is true. Look at your high school's records, how many men won first place in Gymnastics? How many women were the starting runningback on your Varsity football team? Enough said.

Another example, look at how the different gender's sit down. Men sit down, lie back, legs stretched out, often resting on the coffee table, women sit on the couch with their legs folded under tham. How do the do that!? I bend my knee like 10 degrees and I need knee surgery. (Yeah yeah, I know, I bent it the wrong way, just ignore that part though.)

take it easy on the ladies fellas...