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January 10th, 2005   Post 1
Vitaly
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As an person in the Army DEP, I have a question. I do not know much about the Marines, but I am interested in one thing. How come Marines have such pride and belief that they are the roughest and toughest branch of the Military? I mean this in no offending way and respect all service members equally. I'm just wondering. From my research I have seen that the Marines are considered the most "military". ( http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/joini...cruiter1_2.htm ). If that is true how come they don't have their own Airborne School, Ranger School, SOTIC, and SFAS?
 
January 10th, 2005   Post 2
03USMC
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It's called Esprit de Corps. The Culture of the Corps is a Warrior Culture. Every Marine a Rifleman etc.

Marines believe the Corps is the best because they are Marines and it's their Corps. It's their family from the day they graduate Boot until the day they die.

The Marine Corps Mission is different. The lack of Jump School, Ranger, Special Forces schools revolve mainly around the Mission the size of the Corps, budget and the fact that a limited number of Marines are needed in those skills.
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January 10th, 2005   Post 3
Vitaly
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Doesn't the army have sort of the same thing too? the Soldier's Creed?
http://basic.armystudyguide.com/gene...iers-Creed.htm
 
January 10th, 2005   Post 4
03USMC
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Gear


I don't know where your going with that. The Army has it's Esprit de Corps. Pride in Unit etc.

Marines tend to be a bit more pronounced about theirs.
 
January 10th, 2005   Post 5
Vitaly
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What I meant was that every branch has it's own Esprit de Corps, and why are the Marines the branch that is more vocal about thiers?
 
January 10th, 2005   Post 6
03USMC
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Gear


Because their Marines. But the Army Airborne, Army Infantry, Rangers are just as vocal about theirs and with good reason.
 
January 10th, 2005   Post 7
Vitaly
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Also the Marine Boot Camp is 12 weeks isn't it, while ARMY infantry OSUT is 14 weeks. So how come the Marines consider themselves the best trained? Is the Marine Training harder?

If this is in anyway offensive, I apologize and am not asking in a spiteful way but in an uninformed way.
 
January 10th, 2005   Post 8
Whispering Death
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Gear

The marine corps bootcamp has a reputation for being more difficult and since the corps is a much smaller force than the army, the Marines can afford to be a bit more selective.
 
January 10th, 2005   Post 9
03USMC
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Gear


Recruit training is 12 weeks Plus 2 weeks at MCT for non infantry MOS's Infantry MOS's go straight to SOI.

I don't know if you can say ethier is harder or softer. It's pride in Service on both sides.
 
January 10th, 2005   Post 10
Charge 7
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The Marines also answer our nation's call the most often. Their claim of "first in last out" is all too true. Considering their much greater chances of coming home in a body bag than any other branch of service, I can certainly allow them to voice their fame the loudest - even cheer them on as they do so. The high price a Marine pays to wear those globes and anchors is currency enough to me to hear any claims to fame. Knowledge firsthand of the cost to be paid led my father to forbid his sons from joining the Corps. He felt he had paid full measure in his years in the Pacific on Guadalcanal, Munda, Peleliu, and Iwo Jima during WWII and I will not debate his wisdom. So in short, the Marines pay the most so they can crow the most.
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