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| Tribunus Laticlavius | Post; I Love South DakotaSenate OK's Abortion Ban Quote:
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__________________ Please note that 98% of what I say is my opinion and/or my "version" of the facts. Most of what I say is rumor with little to no evidence to back it up, just something I picked up somewhere. My City Last edited by Damien435 : February 23rd, 2006 at 21:17. | |||
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | I think its an incredable foolish idea. But there welcome to try as it will most certainly backfire on them... South Dakota might be for banning abortion (pop 754,000) but 70% of the United States does not (pop. 280 Million and counting). But once again the religous right MINORITY is absolutely determined to force its extremist agenda down the throat of the American MAJORITY. And to what end? Even should the Bill pass and be signed into law there will most certainly be a court challenge and even if it survives the lower federal court (where most of these cases have died) and makes it to the U.S Supreme Court, the Supreme Court would still strike it down as the court still remains 5-4 in favor of Roe v. Wade. This would mean the the Roe ruling would have been Upheld 3 Times! I'm no constitutional scholar, but I do not know of a case in the history of the U.S Supreme Court that has been reversed after previously being upheld upholding 3 times before? Gambling on Stevens retiring is also stupid. 1. Although hes old, he's in excellent health 2. he loves his job 3. Hes a pro-choice liberal, who probably wont stepdown until Bush is gone. Basically the pro-life group has got to hope he dies before Jan 20. 2009. Not good odds, espically when you figure that the Dems are probably going to make *some* ground in Congress after the mid-term elections, which will have a more direct impact on who gets on the USSC. Lastly GOP politicals are not stupid. As much as they love to titilate the extremists they know perfectly well that any reversal of Roe would inoccur a devestating backlash at the polls. Roe will not be overturned as long as ther vast majority of public opinion supports it, its that simple. If they did, not only would they most certainly lose the next several elections but the Democrats would simply nominate pro-choice justices the moment seats became available, and the case would be certainly overturned again. So overturning Roe is a lose-lose situation for the GOP. Last edited by mmarsh : February 23rd, 2006 at 22:03. |
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| Tribuni Angusticlavii | Im all for banning late-term abortions thats just murder but it is a womans right to choose to have a child or not. Im a beleiver in indvidialism if you can live with yourself after an abortion so be it.
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | Rabs Usually you and I dont see eye to eye, but in this case I 100% agree. Incidently I am pro-choice because someone in my family very recently had to have one due to a dangerous miscarriage. But I also support a woman right to choose. It is not for a bunch of right wing religous extremists (whose religous views I do not share) to tell my family how to run our lives. |
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| Godfather | I don't understand how you gentlemen could support abortion. There is no excuse for killing another human being. If you don't want a child, don't have sex or at least use a condom. Don't wait until you're already pregnant to decide that you don't want a child. |
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| Tribuni Angusticlavii | But were do you draw the line at whats a human and whats not a human. Personally I think once the organs become operational abortions should be legal only in specfic cases (insest,rape, danger to mother etc.) My conservtive allies are hypocritical on this, they preach abstience only (which doesnt work) so they cause more preganincies without offering information on contraceptive devices on how to preveant preganinces. (another example on how the relgeious right harms the republicans.) Quote:
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| Godfather | I believe it is a human the moment it is conceived. Yes, there are certain cases where abortion is neccessary, but just having one because you don't feel like having a kid is no excuse. |
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Oh, and contrary to what has been reported ealier, when a "woman's life is in danger" abortions will be allowed, but I personally define "in danger" differently then some. I define in danger as a possibility of complications down the road, if a woman is lying there on the operating table and they have uncontrolled bleeding caused by the baby, that is not in danger, that is dying. Two seperate incidents to me. Last edited by Damien435 : February 24th, 2006 at 03:26. | |
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As I said once a organism becomes a Human as i stated above i beleive abortion should be illegal except for in those cases. I dont think that abortion before that point is takeing a human life. Thats why i dont think the serial killer walking free thing really applies. Also the organism is inside the mother so its techincally part of her.To me its not a seperate being until it develops its own human specfic features such as organs and the like. (like i said above...again) | |
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