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April 17th, 2008   Post 1
Cdt Matteo
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Post; Looking at all my military carreer options


Hey everyone, as the title says, I've been looking at all my military career options. Now, I could serve in the Canadian Army (since I live in Canada), but I'm also looking into the US Army or the USMC. I've tried to look around, but since I'm in Canada and not in the US, I can't email the US Army or the USMC (tried). I want to know if you could answer this:

Can I get my US citizenship from serving in the US Army or in the USMC?

Now, I'm looking into the money issue as well. I know that the US Army pays a heck of a lot less than the Canadian, but that's not a huge issue. I've seen the US Army pay tables, but I can't seem to find the USMC pay tables. Could anyone perhaps post up a link to a USMC pay tables? Thanks again

Thanks a lot in advance!

PS: I'm off to Italy in a few hours for 10 days so I'll try to go on my brother's laptop to check your answers.
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April 17th, 2008   Post 2
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I believe you need to have a U.S. citizenship first, before joining, also have fun in italy!!!!!
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April 17th, 2008   Post 3
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You must be a legal resident of the US.Not a citizen.
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April 18th, 2008   Post 4
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Green card at least that is.

Hmmm... pay tables can be misleading. I don't know about USMC, but in South Korea, the RoKMC and RoK Army pay tables look pretty much the same. But the difference is that it takes FOREVER for you to get promoted in RoKMC that essentially you're being paid much less. I guess that's what happens when the force is small and there aren't many slots for promotion, especially for officers.

So be aware that pay tables aren't everything and they can be pretty misleading.
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April 18th, 2008   Post 5
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Every pay grade in the US Armed Forces gets paid the same base pay. So an Army Pvt, Marine Pvt are paid at exactly the same base pay E-1.
 
April 18th, 2008   Post 6
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Pay is identical, but promotions do come a lot faster in the US Army from what my gunny tells me. You'll need, at minimum, a green card to enlist - you might want to start that process now if it's something you're seriously considering.
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April 19th, 2008   Post 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by c/Commander
Pay is identical, but promotions do come a lot faster in the US Army from what my gunny tells me. You'll need, at minimum, a green card to enlist - you might want to start that process now if it's something you're seriously considering.
Right on. Air force and a few other branches offer larger incentives and better BAH and such, but in the long run, the Army promotes faster, thus higher pay grade and more money. 365 points last I looked for 5.

But then again, you can be Sergeant Major of the Universe and make less than Captain of Supplyland.
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April 19th, 2008   Post 8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartacus
But then again, you can be Sergeant Major of the Universe and make less than Captain of Supplyland.
SMA, MCPON, SMMC, CSMAF all make more than Captains in their respective service, as they should.
 
April 19th, 2008   Post 9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by c/Commander
SMA, MCPON, SMMC, CSMAF all make more than Captains in their respective service, as they should.
An E-9 with more than 10, but less than 12 years of service makes $4,254.60 whereas an O-3 with more than 4 years and less than 6 makes
$4,545.60. Making O-3 in 4 years: likely. Making E-9 in less than 12: doubtful. The charts dont even place E-9 until 10 years of service, at which point an O-3 with identical time in service would make $5,157.00, roughly $10,800 per annum difference.


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http://www.dfas.mil/militarypay/mili...ayCharts35.pdf
 
April 19th, 2008   Post 10
A Can of Man
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Also, being in Canada and not being able to talk to a recruiter is bull.
Go look on your search engine and look for recruiting stations across the US and give them a call. BE RESOURCEFUL.
 



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