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June 30th, 2007   Post 1
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Post; London mayor defends Muslims as bomb plot foiled (AFP)


AFP - London Mayor Ken Livingstone called on Britons Saturday not to demonize Muslims after a double car bomb plot was foiled in the capital, amid fears of a Islamist terror threat.



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June 30th, 2007   Post 2
Del Boy
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You have to know that the mayor of London is a communist of the extreme left. Muslims have not been demonised in Britain - the tolerance has been exhaustive. I know this sounds ridiculous but it is true. Livingstone is a traitor, agsinst all things British and welcoming to ALL Britain's enemies. I see him always as a snake and an opportunist. How he remains in postition isd a measure of our idiotic tolerance of our tormentors.

We do not fear these stinking terrorists and their apologists, we just want them sorted.
 
June 30th, 2007   Post 3
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Boy
You have to know that the mayor of London is a communist of the extreme left. Muslims have not been demonised in Britain - the tolerance has been exhaustive. I know this sounds ridiculous but it is true. Livingstone is a traitor, agsinst all things British and welcoming to ALL Britain's enemies. I see him always as a snake and an opportunist. How he remains in postition isd a measure of our idiotic tolerance of our tormentors.

We do not fear these stinking terrorists and their apologists, we just want them sorted.

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more extreme than lenin or marx? or is this statement just hyperbole?
 
June 30th, 2007   Post 4
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Something is wrong here! Livingstone is a leftist, but not a communist. Further, Islamic terrorists are on the far right and have always fought against the communists. Let us be a bit more careful in the way we judge people, or we might land up saying ,as Churchill did, after WW2, "We have slaughtered the wrong pig".
 
July 2nd, 2007   Post 5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Boy
You have to know that the mayor of London is a communist of the extreme left. Muslims have not been demonised in Britain - the tolerance has been exhaustive. I know this sounds ridiculous but it is true. Livingstone is a traitor, agsinst all things British and welcoming to ALL Britain's enemies. I see him always as a snake and an opportunist. How he remains in postition isd a measure of our idiotic tolerance of our tormentors.

We do not fear these stinking terrorists and their apologists, we just want them sorted.
You are disagreeing with his move to ask for the English not to demonize muslims? So you agree that everyone should be demonizing muslims? Im sorry, but I find it morally questionable to demonize an entire religion, and a large segement of a countries population based upon an action that they didnt commit, and they probably dont believe in.

Honestly, your bias shocks me. Do you understand how demonizing a religion can have an effect later on down the road? Look at how the Nazis demonized the Jewish faith. Where did that lead? I think you have to take a step back, realize that there is no reason to blame all muslims, just the ones who are attacking you, the extremists. I dont know this guys other policies, but on this one I applaud his action. And I dont think labeling people as communists for no real reason helps the situation either.
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July 2nd, 2007   Post 6
Del Boy
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Just back - catching up.

Livingstone is a communist - sit on that.

I condemned him for his statement when he knows only too well that muslim's are not demonised here. This is the most tolerant country in the world, with the exception of the muslims. The terrorists have threatened us ,bombed us, laid fatwas on us, but still we do not respond. So don't accuse me of intolerance - that was his desire. It worked with you. He invites the greatest extreme enemies of Britain here, like the absolute head of The Muslim Brotherhood and therefore spiritual head of Al Quaida, who calls for the Islamic caliphate across the world, and claims that Islam is about to take Europe without firing a shot. He fetes him like a hero.

He recently derided American embassy staff for not paying his congestion charge in London, as is their right, and described the American Ambassador as a chiseling little crook.

Don't try to take the high moral ground with me on behalf of an extreme left-wing communist in hiding who hates America and all it stands for. I do not call people communists for nothing.

Do your own research, check out Red Ken, further left than Mao or Lenin or Stalin, don't ask me, and meanwhile you can stick your criticism of the tolerance of this great English people where the sun don't shine. What a f****** liberty!

Last edited by Del Boy; July 2nd, 2007 at 20:53.
 
July 2nd, 2007   Post 7
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Boy
Just back - catching up.

Livingstone is a communist - sit on that.

I condemned him for his statement when he knows only too well that muslim's are not demonised here. This is the most tolerant country in the world, with the exception of the muslims. The terrorists have threatened us ,bombed us, laid fatwas on us, but still we do not respond. So don't accuse me of intolerance - that was his desire. It worked with you. He invites the greatest extreme enemies of Britain here, like the absolute head of The Muslim Brotherhood and therefore spiritual head of Al Quaida, who calls for the Islamic caliphate across the world, and claims that Islam is about to take Europe without firing a shot. He fetes him like a hero.

He recently derided American embassy staff for not paying his congestion charge in London, as is their right, and described the American Ambassador as a chiseling little crook.

Don't try to take the high moral ground with me on behalf of an extreme left-wing communist in hiding who hates America and all it stands for. I do not call people communists for nothing.

Do your own research, check out Red Ken, further left than Mao or Lenin or Stalin, don't ask me, and meanwhile you can stick your criticism of the tolerance of this great English people where the sun don't shine. What a f****** liberty!
"This is the most tolerant country in the world, with the exception of the muslims. The terrorists have threatened us ,bombed us, laid fatwas on us, but still we do not respond" This was a quote from your statement. I think this clearly shows you harbor some bias against them. Muslims != terrorists. They arent the same thing, so please use them seperatly. He was calling for "Muslims" not to be demonized, not "Terrorists". I dont know his other policies, and honestly I couldnt care less. On this issue he did the right thing. Period.

I in no way dergraded the english people, I even looked back on my own statements to check that. Maybe this is like your communism comment, a bit of hyperbole meant to cloud the issue. As for hating America, I'm an American and I couldnt care less. As for how bad he is....apparently the people of London dont agree with you, since he has been elected what........3 times now?
 
July 2nd, 2007   Post 8
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I don't agree with everything that Del Boy is saying, but I can certainly see where he is coming from.

You must look at all of the problem not merely this latest issue. Many groups within Britain have been pointing out the likelihood of events such as the recent bombings happening for a long time.

People get angry when they point out the obvious, only to be ignored, time and time again. What you are seeing is a backlash against the Muslim community as a result of the Government's continued inaction and refusal to listen to the people.

As for the couple of comments about America being the most tolerant country in the world, I merely ask, "What planet have you been on since 9/11"?
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July 2nd, 2007   Post 9
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The Mayor of Londonstan defends Muslims... go figure.

I might actually be interested and give it credit were it the Imams of said polis that came out and loudly and publicly denounced said bombings... but they didn't so 'em and their political sycophantic mayor.
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July 5th, 2007   Post 10
Del Boy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WNxRogue
"This is the most tolerant country in the world, with the exception of the muslims. The terrorists have threatened us ,bombed us, laid fatwas on us, but still we do not respond" This was a quote from your statement. I think this clearly shows you harbor some bias against them. Muslims != terrorists. They arent the same thing, so please use them seperatly. He was calling for "Muslims" not to be demonized, not "Terrorists". I dont know his other policies, and honestly I couldnt care less. On this issue he did the right thing. Period.

I in no way dergraded the english people, I even looked back on my own statements to check that. Maybe this is like your communism comment, a bit of hyperbole meant to cloud the issue. As for hating America, I'm an American and I couldnt care less. As for how bad he is....apparently the people of London dont agree with you, since he has been elected what........3 times now?







I have no bias against Muslims, the problem is that they have a bias against me.

I carefully distinguish here between Muslims and terrorists. I said that Muslims were not tolerant, as the indigenous population is, that's all. Its a fact. And the rest was regarding terrorists, I did not mix the two.

The people of London do agree with me, but there's naught as strange as politics.

I pick my words carefully and I do not mince words. You would do well not to dismiss my sentiments so lightly.

How many times must I tell you - it is not hyperbole -he actually has always been a communist, and one of the far left. And before you jump, I no longer am bothered whether he is or not, now that the cold war is over. Just being factual.

And he did not do the right thing - because the Muslims of england have not been demonised. To announce such to the world is to denigrate us and stir up animosity against us.

Please do your research before putting me down - although I can't respect your American comment,so I don't give a monkeys, as it happens. Think what you like, i don't peddle propaganda, only the truth counts.

On the subject of this person, this is my last post, so remember where you heard it first.

Last edited by Del Boy; July 5th, 2007 at 01:06.
 



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