I can't believe that I am the first to start a thread about this, or I am missing something... In Holland it wa all over the news that Libby pointed to Bush for leaking too. I know that Bush will probably survive this as well, but what are the effects?
How much credibility is left? I bet if this would have happened to Clinton there would have been 5 Kenneth Stars ready to cruxify him!

But the political impact of the disclosure could be significant. It suggests that Mr. Libby, who has been charged with perjury and obstruction in the C.I.A. leak case, may argue as part of his defense that any information he leaked was on the instructions of his two superiors, Mr. Cheney and Mr. Bush. However, the sections of the N.I.E. that Mr. Libby said he was freed to discuss make no mention of Valerie Plame, the C.I.A. officer who was exposed in the course of the arguments over the intelligence, prompting the leak investigation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/06/wa...p=GGGNbushleak


This is an excerpt from an article on the topic. Take it how you want it. It seems to me that Libby is under pressure and is grabbing at whatever lifeline he can to keep his butt out of the fire.

Originally Posted by Ted

I can't believe that I am the first to start a thread about this, or I am missing something... In Holland it wa all over the news that Libby pointed to Bush for leaking too. I know that Bush will probably survive this as well, but what are the effects?
How much credibility is left? I bet if this would have happened to Clinton there would have been 5 Kenneth Stars ready to cruxify him!

Nah, Clinton made his own messes, and the Republicans just made them more messy.

Libby is grasping at straws. Whether his accusation is true or not has yet to be proven.

Until there is some proof, this is just another political game of hang man. I don't care how much the media wants to make out of it.

I always thought it was BS to begin with, the girl ran around telling everyone she was a CIA agent anyway.

Originally Posted by PJ24

I always thought it was BS to begin with, the girl ran around telling everyone she was a CIA agent anyway.

Gotta love some of the training in regards to OPSEC/PERSEC lol.

As posted I agree. This is someone or someones out to further discredit the POTUS. Anyway you slice it or dice it you have to admit that more and more people and groups of people are coming up with crap to slander the POTUS with. This is just another case of that in my opinion.

don't get excited...

If President authorizes some thing it is not illegal or criminal

Originally Posted by phoenix80

don't get excited...

If President authorizes some thing it is not illegal or criminal

phoenix80, you don't have any idea what you are talking about.
In the USA the president is NOT above the law.

Originally Posted by tomtom22

phoenix80, you don't have any idea what you are talking about.
In the USA the president is NOT above the law.

I do have an idea about what I am talking about.

The left is trying to discredit president Bush and whether he is acting within the law or not is not my point though.

Originally Posted by phoenix80

I do have an idea about what I am talking about.

The left is trying to discredit president Bush and whether he is acting within the law or not is not my point though.

Sorry to confuse the issue of this thread ... but ... elsewhere you should find an article that states in part ... "The president said he declassified the information and directed the declassified information be disseminated to the news media" thus uncovering an active CIA agent in time of war (even if not declared).

The left DOES NOT have to discredit GW, he is doing it to himself. The POTUS can declassify information ... but ... even he still has to follow certain protocols. What he did is against the very National Security legislation he signed into law.

The last time I looked, violation of National Security by a sitting president was grounds for impeachment. (If he were impeached, at least it wouldn't be because someone lied about a sexual encounter ... this would be much more serious than that).

We will see if the Teflon President manages to slide out from under this boodoggle like he has slid out from under others.

Originally Posted by Chief Bones

Sorry to confuse the issue of this thread ... but ... elsewhere you should find an article that states in part ... "The president said he declassified the information and directed the declassified information be disseminated to the news media" thus uncovering an active CIA agent in time of war (even if not declared).

The left DOES NOT have to discredit GW, he is doing it to himself. The POTUS can declassify information ... but ... even he still has to follow certain protocols. What he did is against the very National Security legislation he signed into law.

The last time I looked, violation of National Security by a sitting president was grounds for impeachment. (If he were impeached, at least it wouldn't be because someone lied about a sexual encounter ... this would be much more serious than that).

We will see if the Teflon President manages to slide out from under this boodoggle like he has slid out from under others.

LMAO

If you say so!

Leftists and ********s are discrediting themselves by having no plans to run the USA. So to speak they are discredited in the first place.

Thank goodness... GWB is in the white house

I haven't seen any proof that the POTUS authorized anything, and if he did, big friggin' deal.

Mrs. Plame outed herself. Photo shoot in Vanity Fair ring a bell? Blabbing to anyone at the local DC cocktail parties isn't any way of keeping up PERSC/OPSEC. She was the world's worst "NOC." Of course, she's been driving a desk for years now.

This entire thing is a sham and a waste of tax payers money.

If President authorizes some thing it is not illegal or criminal

Nope, that's very wrong. Go ask Nixon.