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| Milforum Moderator ![]() | Post; A letter from a retired Border Patrol AgentSomeone sent me this and I thought I'd see what we all think about it. So what do you say? Is this guy speaking the truth? Before anyone feels the need, I just checked Snopes.com and they report this letter as a true. Snopes Quote:
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| Milforum's Bouncer | Absolutely agree with all points he made, especially #2 and #8. I see nothing but common sense and wisdom in this letter... something as you pointed out Top that is in short supply in our political gene pool of all persuasions- demo, repub and everything around the fringe.
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | I agree with the writer on most, of not all, points, but..... He has solid arguments but misses out on one thing. Quote:
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| Milforum's Bouncer | Ted if they stem the flow of illegals the wages will rise. The jobs need to be done but people won't do them until the price is right. So according to the laws of supply and demand the wages will increase until it is suitable for the workers needs. |
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | First let me compliment you on the speed of the responce, very impressive. SOmehow I have a hard time to believe that old macro economic principals will apply to this problem. As with most things when they become scarce is; a) they become more expensive b) dependent parties will try to obtain this via "other" ways. I'll grant you, it will work but then you'll have to change a lot. The penalty for letting illegals work for you should become more severe and the laws should be plain, simple and easy to enforce. Don't get me wrong though, I am with you on this one. But I think that the flow of illegals is also due to a large group of small entrepreneurs in the US as well. As long as these are not taken care off, this stream won't dry up! |
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | I'll just comment on the parts I disagree or wifh to comment further on: #2. 'Jobs American dont want' = (Employers saying) why pay minimum wage when we can get a immigrant to do it for $1.25 an hour. Michael Moore in 'The Big One' caught CEO Philip Knight on this lie. Knight tried to justify the closing of the last Nike sneaker factory in the USA (moved to Indonsia) by saying "Americans dont want to make shoes". So Mike Moore shows up with over 900 names of people from Flint Michigan, where unemployment is at 20% of people who would take a job at a shoe factory or any job for that matter. Moral of the story never trust the word of big corporate business. #5. When he refers, to 'legal' immigration of our American ancestors. I dont think the American Indians would agree with that, we palefaces weren't exactly invited to live in America by them. Go far enough back and we are the decsendants of ILLEGAL immigrants. #6. He's right about the Hispanic vote. Hispanics come from all over. Cubans tend to vote Repunlican, Peurto Ricians and Mexicans tend to lean Democrat. There is no universal 'hispanic vote'. I always thought the GOP was wasting time with this invisible voter block. #8. Jeez, Water under the bridge. There are still some Germans who think Alsace-Lorraine should be German, or Spanish who think Gibralter should be Spainish. I dont believe the part about 9-11 and even if true thats a pretty large generasation, you cannot condemn a whole population for it. #11. I always love it when caucasians say racism doesnt exsist anymore. How would they know? When was the last time they experianced it. The idiots in bedsheets are mostly gone as is public segregation but racism still lies beneath the surface. He might not be speaking for himself but racisim still exists in America. There are people in America who simply dont want Brown people living next to them legal or illegal. That doesnt mean EVERYBODY who wants border security is a racist, but some are. |
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| Tribuni Angusticlavii | Quote:
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | Quote:
Back to the original post, I'll also take issue with the statement 280 Million Americans are 'native'. No they aint. There are millions of US citizens that are not native, my mother for example... Last edited by mmarsh; May 26th, 2006 at 17:42. | |
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| Tribuni Angusticlavii | Quote:
Millions of Americans are descendants from other legal immigrants and native born Americans as well. To say we are "all" descended from illegal immigrant is pretty ignorant. Most Americans ARE native to this country, they were born right here on US soil. This is a weak argument used to justify illegal immigration. It's fluff and BS, just like when people say "well, we're all really immigrants if we aren't Indians (yeah, I don't use native American)." I was born in Boston, MA, if that isn't native to the United States, I don't know wtf is. | |
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| Nuclear Duck Hunter ![]() | Indians are Siberian-Americans.
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