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View Poll Results :Leopard 2 vs. Abrams
Leopard 2 12 50.00%
Abrams 12 50.00%
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January 13th, 2006   Post 31
AlexKall
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Who in their right mind would shot an RPG at the thickest part of a tank? Unless it was desperation. A test with a RPG 7 in the front wont show how safe the tank is, just how stupid the test was hehe
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January 13th, 2006   Post 32
Damien435
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlexKall
Who in their right mind would shot an RPG at the thickest part of a tank? Unless it was desperation. A test with a RPG 7 in the front wont show how safe the tank is, just how stupid the test was hehe
Sometimes your best shot isn't necessarily a good shot.
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January 13th, 2006   Post 33
zander_0633
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Well, Is it possible to shoot at the tracks of the tank?> Some are protected with skirts, but they do not fully extend to the ground. We can use this to destroy them!
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January 14th, 2006   Post 34
FO Seaman
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Originally Posted by zander_0633
Well, Is it possible to shoot at the tracks of the tank?> Some are protected with skirts, but they do not fully extend to the ground. We can use this to destroy them!
Your not getting the point, even if you take out a tanks track it's still a 70 ton road block with a 120mm cannon armed with Canister or Bee Hive rounds. OUCH!
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January 14th, 2006   Post 35
zander_0633
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Well, Yes, At least we can stop the convoy of tanks from advancing! We will then play the wating game! After some time, the troops will come out!
 
January 14th, 2006   Post 36
Whispering Death
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Originally Posted by zander_0633
Well, Yes, At least we can stop the convoy of tanks from advancing! We will then play the wating game! After some time, the troops will come out!
You may be surprised that complex theory that works out so well in the movies just leads to tons of friendly casualties in real life.
 
January 14th, 2006   Post 37
zander_0633
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Oh! Is it true? Any examples?If this scenario really happens, I think those in the Tank would be darn scared!
 
January 14th, 2006   Post 38
Kozzy Mozzy
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www.fprado.com/armorsite/US-Field-Manuals/abrams-oif.pdf
Here's the after-action report of the M1 in Iraq

just copy and paste it into your browser
 
January 14th, 2006   Post 39
Fox
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Abrams needs more armor to guard from RPG rocket.
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January 14th, 2006   Post 40
FO Seaman
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Originally Posted by Fox
Abrams needs more armor to guard from RPG rocket.
Atfter reading the report pages 4 -10 is states in the first sentance of the first paragraph the "No catastrophic losses due to Iraqi dierect or indirect fire weapons."

It also states in the second paragraph of page 4 first sentance that "Frontal turret and hull armor continues to provide excellent crew protection. Top side and rear armor remains susceptable to penetration."

As you continue to read this paragraph it goes to explain that 25mm DU-AP rounds fired from a Bradley disabled to engine on an M1.

From what I read in the report.No M1 has been destroyed from Iraqi insurgents , only one has be totally destroyed and the was from friendly fire of on Sabot, a thermite grenade and two Maverick Missiles. Also the photos and pics of M1's scorched or burned by friendly fire or by ammo ejection, also by vandalism by Iraqi's or striped for parts.

Only one report of penetration for enemy fire is recorded, that is of the strange round the pentrated throught the non-ballistic skirts and into the Hydraulic Reservoir, this is on page 8 of the report.