Topic: Leo 2/Abrams vs. Challenger 2

Damien435 · January 17th, 2006

See here for details.

Ok, because the Leopard 2 and Abrams tied I have decided that they will have to run together. So.

If the Leo 2/Abrams win.
1.Abrams (tie)
1.Leopard 2 (tie)
3. Challenger 2
4. Merkava

If the Challenger 2 wins.
1. Challenger 2
2. Leopard 2 (tie)
2. Abrams (tie)
4. Merkava

So, you decide, which tank(s) do you believe to be the best in the world? The fate of the world is in your hands. You have the power!

zander_0633 · January 17th, 2006

Istrongly believe that the Leo 2 will win ! German TAnks are great! Gut Panzer!

Whispering Death · January 17th, 2006

wait, why not make it a 3-way vote?

godofthunder9010 · January 17th, 2006

Yes, what WD said.

Mohmar Deathstrike · January 17th, 2006

I voted Leo2/Abrams for teh win!

I'm surprised I haven't seen a poll including the Type-90 MBT yet.
Some American think-tank declared it to be the third-best tank in the world after the Leo2A6 and the M1A2.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...an/type-90.htm

major liability · January 17th, 2006

T-90? I thought it was a failure next to its western counterparts? The only Russian tanks I'd consider for the top slot are the T-80UM2 Black Eagle and T-95, but there's not enough data available on either to issue a proper judgement.

Oh well. If it's going to be a tie, why not include the Challenger 2? Most advanced armor ever.

sunb! · January 17th, 2006

My sense for British hardware is low but the Brits knows how to make a few things between tea time, and so is the Challenger.

LeEnfield · January 17th, 2006

Until a tank has battlefield action in harsh conditions then you just don't know how it will perform and what is spoken about some of these tanks is just sales talk. Now both the Abraham tank and the Challenger have seen a fair amount of combat. Now as there are three times the number of Abraham tanks than there are Challenger tanks then results can be different. Also the Americans use there tanks in a different manner than the British so it is hard to draw a correct comparison

FO Seaman · January 17th, 2006

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Originally Posted by LeEnfield 2

Until a tank has battlefield action in harsh conditions then you just don't know how it will perform and what is spoken about some of these tanks is just sales talk. Now both the Abraham tank and the Challenger have seen a fair amount of combat. Now as there are three times the number of Abraham tanks than there are Challenger tanks then results can be different. Also the Americans use there tanks in a different manner than the British so it is hard to draw a correct comparison

True. Tactic's, Training, and use of the tank are different. Thats why the Brits still use the HESH round, while we prefer the HEAT round.

I know that the M1 and Chally share alot. Chally use the same FCS as the M1A1.

Doug97 · January 17th, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cadet Seaman

I know that the M1 and Chally share alot. Chally use the same FCS as the M1A1.

An improved one, anyway.

View Poll Results :Leopard 2/Abrams vs. Challenger 2
Leopard 2/Abrams	16	76.19%
Challenger 2	5	23.81%
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January 17th, 2006	Post 1
Damien435 Tribunus Laticlavius	Post; Leo 2/Abrams vs. Challenger 2 See here for details. Ok, because the Leopard 2 and Abrams tied I have decided that they will have to run together. So. If the Leo 2/Abrams win. 1.Abrams (tie) 1.Leopard 2 (tie) 3. Challenger 2 4. Merkava If the Challenger 2 wins. 1. Challenger 2 2. Leopard 2 (tie) 2. Abrams (tie) 4. Merkava So, you decide, which tank(s) do you believe to be the best in the world? The fate of the world is in your hands. You have the power! __________________ Please note that 98% of what I say is my opinion and/or my "version" of the facts. Most of what I say is rumor with little to no evidence to back it up, just something I picked up somewhere. My City Last edited by Damien435; January 19th, 2006 at 04:03.

January 17th, 2006	Post 2
zander_0633 Milforum Gnat Gear	Istrongly believe that the Leo 2 will win ! German TAnks are great! Gut Panzer! __________________ - Ready To Strike -

January 17th, 2006	Post 4
godofthunder9010 Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	Yes, what WD said. __________________ "It is well that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it." - General Robert E. Lee Warning, critical pebkac error in the iD10t!! pebkac\wtflolurpwnzd\snafuroflmao.exe called iD10t, iD10t failed to respond!! System in danger!! "It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man." -Chevy Chase

January 17th, 2006	Post 7
sunb! Forum Barbecuer Gear	My sense for British hardware is low but the Brits knows how to make a few things between tea time, and so is the Challenger. __________________ Per Qualitatem Optimum Robur

January 17th, 2006	Post 3
Whispering Death Tribuni Angusticlavii Gear	wait, why not make it a 3-way vote?

January 17th, 2006	Post 5
Mohmar Deathstrike Banned Gear	I voted Leo2/Abrams for teh win! I'm surprised I haven't seen a poll including the Type-90 MBT yet. Some American think-tank declared it to be the third-best tank in the world after the Leo2A6 and the M1A2. http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...an/type-90.htm

January 17th, 2006	Post 6
major liability Tribuni Angusticlavii Gear	T-90? I thought it was a failure next to its western counterparts? The only Russian tanks I'd consider for the top slot are the T-80UM2 Black Eagle and T-95, but there's not enough data available on either to issue a proper judgement. Oh well. If it's going to be a tie, why not include the Challenger 2? Most advanced armor ever.

January 17th, 2006	Post 8
LeEnfield Tribuni Angusticlavii Gear	Until a tank has battlefield action in harsh conditions then you just don't know how it will perform and what is spoken about some of these tanks is just sales talk. Now both the Abraham tank and the Challenger have seen a fair amount of combat. Now as there are three times the number of Abraham tanks than there are Challenger tanks then results can be different. Also the Americans use there tanks in a different manner than the British so it is hard to draw a correct comparison __________________ LeEnfield Rides again

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