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| | Post 11 |
| Milforums Spamkiller | You know what... until you go there and experience the HELL that is Iraq, don't tell me that I have a "cool attitude" about what is going on. This country and region have been like this for thousands of years. Yes it is mostly a religious conflict, and yes there is an AQZ influence there. I would rather have them kill each other than Coalition soldiers.
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| | Post 12 |
| Optio | did you tell me after you experienced plenty of things and finished your military duty in Iraq aka hole, you lost your feeling about what is going on in there? I'd rather have terriorsts and religious freaks keep killing each other rather than innocent people and coalition soldiers.Mod edit:Rule7 - Watch your language! Last edited by tomtom22; August 11th, 2006 at 03:48. |
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| Milforums Spamkiller | Did I lose my feeling about what is going on over there? No, of course not. But look back through history and see what kind of collateral damage that was inflicted by all sides. Compare that to this war... it is a fraction of what families and innocents went through... And this wasn't hundreds of years, this was my grandfathers wars. |
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| Optio | I've never been to Iraq, but I indeed read there are lots of horrible things in Iraq from the newspaper. if you are a veteran who did serve in Iraq, I will start understand a little bit about why you have a such tone when you talk about some Iraqi issues. Last edited by filmmaker; August 11th, 2006 at 00:33. |
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| Milforums Spamkiller | Don't believe everything you hear in the media. They report what they want to and what what will sell papers. There is so much more going on in Iraq then what is being reported.. Ask any vet, they will tell you the same thing. What happens on the individual soldier level will never be understood by the mainstream public. I served with MNF-I Detainee Operations. |
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| Optio | at this point, I kind of agreed with you about newspaper. I admit I will never understand how veterans really feel about this war. the reason that I don't like your tone is because I just can't understand why you don't have any sad feeling after you posted the story that 1,850 people were killed in one month. btw,it is good that you did survive in this war. I mean it. |
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| Milforums Spamkiller | believe it or not... 1,850 is about average for the number of people over there. some of those a-holes were killing more than that. I don't want to be emotionally involved. So if that seems cold, I am sorry, but that is the way I am when it comes to that hole. |
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| Optio | you know, I love freedom and democracy, and I hate ****ing dictatorship, so at the beginning of this war, even though there were lots of people who didn't like the idea of invading Iraq, I insisted to believe that the action of getting rid of Sadam's evil regime is a right thing to do, but several years passed by, the situation in Iraq is so chaotic that I start to think if the price of freedom and democracy is just too high? Last edited by filmmaker; August 11th, 2006 at 01:07. |
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| Milforum's Bouncer | Democracy must be earned by the blood of a country's own people. Look at all democratic societies in operation today... this is their common factor- their own people fought each other and earned their freedoms.
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| Milforums Spamkiller | The price of self governance is high. We have all paid the price at one time or another. |
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