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April 24th, 2004   Post 51
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Originally Posted by Pollux
Lol.....yeah maybe...
What I've been told about our AT-2 mine is that if a tank or sth drives over it, the mine discerns the disturbance in the magnetic field caused by the tank and explodes......
so I'm no pioneer, just a dumb infatrist , but i think that was what I've been told during my officers course
Yes, the AT-2 has what is called a magnetic influence fuze. It is activated by changes in the immiedate magnetic field. The problem with these is that not only will tanks set them off, but so can people. Because of the AHD and the magnetic fuzing it can be detonated by someone walking into it or tripping over it, or having a powerful watch too close. No big deal if it is the enemy, but makes for bad press and Amnesty International will be at your doorstep.

Metal detectors (which is maybe what you meant by MAD) will detonate the fuse about 50% of the time .. and knives have been known to send one flying as well. Luckily those little suckers have a self destruct.
 
April 24th, 2004   Post 52
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Didnt know that those babies are that sensitive
 
April 24th, 2004   Post 53
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Originally Posted by Pollux
Didnt know that those babies are that sensitive
Mostly it's the AHD that makes it moody, but those fuses are ornery little things anyway. Italy, IIRC, stopped using them AT-2s back in the 90s .. too many personnel casualties and pressure from the "feel good" groups.
 
April 24th, 2004   Post 54
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didnt know that
i didnt hear anything bad about the AT-2 here in the Bundeswehr
 
April 24th, 2004   Post 55
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Originally Posted by Pollux
didnt know that
i didnt hear anything bad about the AT-2 here in the Bundeswehr
I'm not sure one could call it "bad," gets the job done, and nicely at that. Anything like this has it's quirks, how it's dealt with depends on training and skill .. and sometimes a little good luck floating your way.
 
April 24th, 2004   Post 56
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If I ever get to choose between skill, and luck. I'll take luck.

At basic I was never taught how to do anything besides emplace an M21 AT mine, emplace and recover a claymore, and self-extract from a minefield. So alll of this mine **** is new two me. They also gave us a briefing on mines, and said that a toe popper would take the steel plate in my jungle boot, and put it through my hip bone. How much is true, and how much is b******t, I don't know.

My buddy here who was an engineer with the 82d in Afghanistan, said that these little italian mines had two magnets that would set the mine off, if any metal came near them. in them and when they worked with them they had to take off everything that had metal in it. ID tags, boots, BDUs, everything.

What is that new AT mine that shoots bomblets out, it goes off by sensing vibration? I am not quites sure about the specifics I only heard about it.
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April 24th, 2004   Post 57
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I think youre talking of the hornet wide area munition
look here
http://www.wood.army.mil/TSM/hornet.htm
 
May 3rd, 2004   Post 58
Marksman
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Gemeva convenction is a agreement about using for example napalm,land mines,cluster bombs and it was agreed betwen all military forces in the world but nobody seems to work as agreed!!
 
May 3rd, 2004   Post 59
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Damn, you are in Seribia, you must no all about mines. MY buddy went there, his comment, "Gorgeous country, pretty women, lots of minefields."
 
May 3rd, 2004   Post 60
Marksman
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Prety women in every where mines mostly in kosovo.im begining to like this site