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August 19th, 2005   Post 1
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Post; Knives and training


What sort of knives do the various militaries and forces around the world issue to their soldiers? And what kind of training do they receive in relevence to knife combat? I know the US Marines are issued with the KA-BAR Fighting Knife, which i bought here for $230 Australian. It's a damn good and simple knife designed for killing. Solid chunk of metal extending right through the handle to allow for maximum stability. Lovely, lovely stuff, easily the favourite of my knives.

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August 19th, 2005   Post 2
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As a Army GI. I carried a KA-Bar expect my blade and sheath said U.S. Army. I also carried the Glock Knife. Most guys in the US Army are issued the M6 Bayonet or M9 Bayonet. But I payed for my KA-Bar and Glock knife myself. The KA-Bar was $45.00 US at Bass Pro Shops and the Glock Knife was $19.98 US at Lou's Police Supply. It's a gun store around my folks home. Been doing business there for as long as I can remember. Good deals and good prices period.


U.S. Army KA-BAR

Glock Model 81 Field Knife

M9 Bayonet

M6 Bayonet
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August 19th, 2005   Post 3
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Very cool stuff mate, thanks for that!

Since our laws tightened and bringing anything dangerous into the country is costly, i obviously payed a hell of a lot of money for my KA-BAR knife, probably $160 US, i don't know how to work it out from Australian to US. It's worth every single cent though. You can't get a decent knife for under a hundred bucks these days which makes it hard for an enthusiast. I'd love to get my hands on one of those Glock knives, man that looks impressive.

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August 19th, 2005   Post 4
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Dont even let em get close.


but the ka-bar is one bad a** knife.
 
August 20th, 2005   Post 5
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HI, in the German Army (Bundeswehr) the infantry units are issued with the brand new KM2000 (KM= Kampfmesser =Fighting Knife) made by Eickhorn Germany. The rest of the Bundeswehr is just issued with a pocket knife . If you are not issued with a fighting knife you can buy one yourself. In my unit the Glock 78 was the favorite.

KM 2000


Bundeswehr issued Pocket knife



Glock 78


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I'd love to get my hands on one of those Glock knives, man that looks impressive.
Ozilmann the Glock is a very cheap knife. You can have one for 30 Euros.

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August 20th, 2005   Post 6
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Post; Ek Knives


John Ek knives, go as far back as 1941. These were no nonsense knives. Strong, tough and razor sharp!
Ek was best known for his Commando knives. They were made from materials, like Venadium, and Poly-Chromium, that was rationed during the war.
(Note: this was considered strategic material during World War II, by the U.S. Government Productions Board Testing Dept.)
The government allowed him to make the knives because of his motto, "Made in America, by Americans, for Americans."
The only way you could get one of his knives during the war, was to show your military ID card to a dealer. The dealer would then have to turn in the ID numbers for every knife he sold.
If the dealer had no ID numbers, he could never get another knife from John Ek again.

Note: The handles were fixed by pouring melted lead or brass into the holes. If the handles loosened, you could just tap the rivets with a rock and tighten them up.

http://www.usmilitaryknives.com/amewn_11.htm



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August 21st, 2005   Post 7
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Very nice. Probably not as sexy as todays knives but they look pretty damn fine for 60 or so year old knives.

Rich.
 
August 21st, 2005   Post 8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ozmilman
Very nice. Probably not as sexy as todays knives but they look pretty damn fine for 60 or so year old knives.

Rich.
During the war, most "fighting" or self defense knives were not of the best quality and were not meant for the use that knives would have to go through today. John Ek used the best steel available to hand make each knife. He also employed the handicapped to make leather sheaths. Now, off the shelf knives are made with steels that are superior to the best hand made knives of that era.

My Wife's step-brother was a Cobra pilot in VietNam and he carried a Puma Skinner and would carry the sheathed knife in his back pocket. His butt had put a permanent curve in the knife that I was able to straighten out for him.

By the way, when you purchase a knife from Ebay or online, don't you just receive a package as mail and not have to pay the extravagant fees?
You can buy pretty good blades online for around $30 to $75 here.
 
August 22nd, 2005   Post 9
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Aw man, i wish i had known that... Thanks for the tip dude....

Heh, he left a butt mark on his knife?? That's funny as hell!!!!!

Rich.
 
August 23rd, 2005   Post 10
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I have to agree with metaljacket on this one, but i kinda like how that M9 Bayonet looks....
All i know is that i never want to be on the recieving end of one of those
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