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August 23rd, 2005   Post 11
ozmilman
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Well, when you're all alone, out of ammo for ur fancy sniper rifle, and you've lost your side-arm, the knife is the last thing you got. Stab them from behind in the lung and they can't scream - silent kill. Or wrap your hand around their face as you force it into their kneck/spinal chord. Slightly gory, but very cost effective.

Rich.
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August 23rd, 2005   Post 12
Missileer
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Just remember, your blade has to penetrate an overcoat in the Winter, a BDU jacket, and probably thermals. If your blade is too wide and the tip looks like an English broadsword, you'll have to be super human to penetrate deep enough to hit a vital place. If the blade is too thin, there is a good chance that it will bend or break. Thus, all the thousands of knife configurations from Kabars to Fairbairns. In such a case, what would you do?
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August 24th, 2005   Post 13
ozmilman
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Go the kneck. If you can't get the kneck, try the eyes - or choke hold them from behind and snap their kneck. Avoid them if possible. OBVIOUSLY it depends on what they're wearing, but once you make the one kill, provided you have time to pick it up, you have yourself another firearm. Obviously you can't destroy a whole platoon with just your knife.

Rich.
 
August 24th, 2005   Post 14
ISLANDFOX
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It's spelt "neck"
 
August 24th, 2005   Post 15
SMPRfidlis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ozmilman
Well, when you're all alone, out of ammo for ur fancy sniper rifle...
hmmmmmmm

LMAO what is that suppose to mean
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August 24th, 2005   Post 16
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Ace Levy: Sir, I don't understand. What goods' a knife in a nuke fight? All you have to do is press a button, sir.

Career Sergeant Zim: Put your hand on that wall trooper. PUT YOUR HAND ON THAT WALL!

[Zim throws a knife and hits Ace's hand pinning it to the wall]

Career Sergeant Zim: The enemy can not press a button... if you have disabled his hand..... Medic!
 
August 24th, 2005   Post 17
ozmilman
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My goodness bloody gracious, i have a major in English and look how i was spelling neck.... SORRY MAN, i never type NECK on the keyboard, but i always type the word KNOW so i've automatically put my finger on the K before putting it on the N... Man, that's so embarrassing. I really do have a degree in English btw... Would you look at that!!!

And the thing about running out of ammo meant exactly what it said - "when you run out of ammo for ur fancy sniper rifle....etc etc". Sniper rifles are fancy...

Rich.
 
August 24th, 2005   Post 18
Missileer
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The scenario is taking out a guard of a full company of heavily armed soldiers. That rules out any shot from even a silencer. You have to get in close enough to call in fire. The guard has his headgear on and a muffler around his neck, which will makes a throat stab a touchy situation. You have to resort to your knife. What kind of weapon would have prepared for this mission? By the way, the guard is a pretty big boy.
 
August 24th, 2005   Post 19
SMPRfidlis
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I thought what you meant by fancy was....when you run out of ammo for that (useless/stupid/dumb/loser of a gun) sniper rifle... that is what i though you meant but clearly i was mistaken
 
August 24th, 2005   Post 20
ozmilman
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Ahhh, nah man, i wouldn't call something that could take my head off from a mile away "stupid".

About the scenario... Hmmm, that really is a tough one, because i'm assuming his hand is on his gun. Well, in that case, and if his eyes/back of his neck etc tec are covered, and for arguments' sake he's bigger than i am then there is nothing i could do unless i was certain that my knife could penetrate his clothes. I'd avoid him if at all possible.

I'm not sure what the muffler around the neck does, but if his mouth were uncovered (which it should be so he could yell out or use the radio) a knife (if long enough - which it should be) can always go up thru the bottom of the jaw, thru the upper soft palate of the mouth, thru the nasal passage and up into the brain. But you'd still need to be careful of that weapon being fired and a warning going out.

I really don't know man, i've got no military training - just 18 years martial arts training. That counts for about, oh, i dunno, maybe an equivalent 2 or 3 days military training. So essentially i know next to nothing.

Rich.