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March 26th, 2008   Post 21
senojekips
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Nobody "hijacked" the thread Delboy, you asked questions of me, I merely answered them,.... and I answered them in a civil manner.
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March 26th, 2008   Post 22
Del Boy
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Originally Posted by senojekips
Nobody "hijacked" the thread Delboy, you asked questions of me, I merely answered them,.... and I answered them in a civil manner.
But it has become a discussion about this woman in Australia and yourself, and not about Gurkhas.

And contrary to your statement above, I have not asked you any questions at all.

I have simply been trying to reassure you regarding British attitudes, to no avail as it happens.
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March 26th, 2008   Post 23
senojekips
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You did make a statement professing your ignorance of my proposition. You seem to base your answer on the idea that because you are not aware of it, it is therefore not true. Am I not allowed to answer it? Or would it just be more convenient for you that I not answer.

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Well - In all honesty, I have never heard the word 'colonials' used by Brits to describe Commonwealth partners, so that must have died in days before my understanding. On the other hand I have heard it used, and used it myself, to accurately decribe colonial antique furniture etc.

To refer to people, the parlance has always been Aussies, Kiwis,Gurkhas etc.etc.
I think 'colonial' went out with the tea-planters. I don't think we have any out-dated hang-ups of this kind.
I agree that the Gurkhas got a bad deal, no argument. Have you done anything about this other than point out it's unfairness on this forum.

Last edited by senojekips; March 26th, 2008 at 22:11.
 
March 26th, 2008   Post 24
MontyB
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I agree the guy deserves far better than this but the first question that sprung to mind is what are the people and opposition parties doing about it, I don't believe people should complain about things they themselves are not prepared make a stand over.

I am certain that in the end the government will do what will guarantee them the most votes.
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March 26th, 2008   Post 25
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Well, if the Gurkhas want a home then I hope, wish, and pray that the USA would give them a home.

Sucks that this is happening. It's truly a shame....
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March 27th, 2008   Post 26
Del Boy
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Well I still say the Gurkha is getting a raw deal. And whoever made the decision should be ashamed of themself.
Exactly. And thank you for those who have joined us in our support of these heroes. It is of course, typical behaviour of our socialist government towards the military. Currently Gurhkas pre 1997 are affected by this attitude. 50 of them have handed back their medals. However, it is being made clear to the Prime Minister that this situation is not acceptable. The English press and people are making their feelings known. Among current suggestions by the public is one that the Gurkhas and Gurkha vets should be employed permanently as a force to protect our borders and another that we should keep the Gurkhas and deport the Government.

Following MontyB's comments I challenge him to tell us in detail exactly what he considers should be done by the man in the street in Britain to deal with the Gurkhas' predicament. Obviously he has some magic formula for dealing with governments and I would like to hear it. I just hope he is not going to come up with the old chestnut of votes at the ballot-box, which in our case come up at 5 year intervals and when calls for referenda on important issues have been dismissed out of hand. I am sure he will be delighted at my invitation to give us the benefit of his great wisdom on this subject.

(As for senojekips; please stop talking about yourself and making excuses for hijacking this thread. I am not interested.Talk about our fabulous Gurkhas. I stand by my statement already quoted by you in your last post and I have asked you no questions as you claimed. I cannot speak for the situation in Australia, but I can speak for attitudes here in England.Your responses were not an 'inconvenience' to me as you suggest - but an irrelevance on this thread, which I am sure you know.)

Last edited by Del Boy; March 27th, 2008 at 13:14.
 
March 27th, 2008   Post 27
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Originally Posted by 5.56X45mm
Well, if the Gurkhas want a home then I hope, wish, and pray that the USA would give them a home.

Sucks that this is happening. It's truly a shame....
I don't think the USA is going to give anyone a home. Except if they were illegal and dirt poor.
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March 27th, 2008   Post 28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Boy
Following MontyB's comments I challenge him to tell us in detail exactly what he considers should be done by the man in the street in Britain to deal with the Gurkhas' predicament. Obviously he has some magic formula for dealing with governments and I would like to hear it. I just hope he is not going to come up with the old chestnut of votes at the ballot-box, which in our case come up at 5 year intervals and when calls for referenda on important issues have been dismissed out of hand. I am sure he will be delighted at my invitation to give us the benefit of his great wisdom on this subject.

Yes but first I have to wade through your snide, sarcastic post to find a question...

However on to matters at hand, rather than respond to your "questions" I have done a little research and found that not all British citizens spend their days sitting here blaming the "socialist government" some are in fact trying to do something about this issue.
Now rather than posting masses of data and getting into a fight over something we actually agree on I intend to help your cause by doing what you should have done.

For what its worth I would suggest people check out this site and see what can be done.

http://www.vchero.co.uk/index.html?0.4639376839598408
 
March 27th, 2008   Post 29
senojekips
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DelBoy, maybe a letter to your local member of Parliament might be good start, better still go and see him/her.

Have you tried to find out if there are any support groups, and if so offered your assistance or maybe a donation to help defray possible costs? There's a lot you could be doing rather than throwing your hands in the air and picking needless arguments with supporters on here.

Last edited by senojekips; March 27th, 2008 at 20:19.
 
March 28th, 2008   Post 30
Del Boy
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Hey, what the hell do you 2 guys think we are doing here, twiddling our thumbs? Is that the best you can offer, is that the best kick-ass you have after all the b/s about getting things done? I am not unknown for speaking up, let me assure you and why you should condescend to assume otherwise I am at a loss to understand. Who are ya?

The Brits are doing all this and more, and working through the newspapers, all interested parties use the petition, for what good it does. My high flying Member of Parliament knows exactly how we feel on this and other issues. And you don't have the right to lecture Brits about donations, we are the most involved and charitable people on earth, bar none, and The Gurkhas know that and they know us. So why should you 2 question my right to post the subject here ? You have a damned patronising cheek.

And our present government has now reached its lowest support figures.

So MontyB, before accusing me of snide, understand that I meant what I said , it was not sarcasm; show us the magic formula you constantly conjure up with your demands 'what are you doing about it'. If you can't respond to the challenge, just get off the pot and do not use that ploy again; you have already over-used it on other threads.

And senojekips has simply used this serious thread to try to beat the British over the head with his toffee- nosed woman problem. I suggest he takes his own advice - 'get over it and stop whinging' - particularly on this thread.

And don't try to create the impression that there is something not legit in my posting this subject here - it's called news, and interesting military news at that. This is another habit you should both try to grow out of.

You have sorely tried my patience on this one.

Last edited by Del Boy; March 28th, 2008 at 01:05.
 



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