Topic: Was justice done in Iraq or doesn't the military care? | |
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Topic: Was justice done in Iraq or doesn't the military care? | |
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June 22nd, 2008
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| Milforum angry closet case  | Post; Was justice done in Iraq or doesn't the military care?How innocent were these Marines? Was justice done? Some of the details here are very disturbing. Do we really care about the ordinary Iraqi? I'm not so sure now. http://www.mcclatchydc.com/world/story/41817.html |
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June 22nd, 2008
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| No Chance Outside | I don't think you ever thought so but aside from this I'm pretty worried about the case as well. The military justice loses its credibility if any foreign party always loses the case. Also it sends the message, "to us, you're not even people." So much for winning hearts and minds.
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June 22nd, 2008
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| Spam King | If you're in there to protect them, which we supposedly are, those Marines are guilty. No justice done.
__________________ "When you argue, I have this compulsive need to argue back." -Jack McCoy |
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June 22nd, 2008
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| Tribunus Laticlavius  | Quote:
When you have a case of peers investigating each other then there will always be allegations of cover up (just look at things like medical review boards, bar association reviews, police complaints boards etc.) but that does not mean they do not do the job.
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June 27th, 2008
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| Milforum angry closet case | Quote:
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June 27th, 2008
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| No Chance Outside | What the involvement in Iraq needs: 1) Trust. Make sure the Iraqis know the US will be staying for a VERY long time. 2) Respect. No one wants help if they're not given respect. |
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June 27th, 2008
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | What a mess. Unfortunately it cannot be avoided when the enemy is firing from within crowds and civilian homes. But then there's no way to confirm the story of either side so I won't pass judgment either way.
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July 4th, 2008
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| Milforum Moderator  | Quote:
On a somewhat related note, the USMC chaptered out a Marine who threw a puppy off a cliff and apparently killed it. I am not happy with the decision to dismiss all charges.
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July 5th, 2008
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| No Chance Outside | When they do these kinds of things, they make the US military justice system a joke. |
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July 6th, 2008
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | The fact remains 24 civilians (including children) were killed by US troops and there is no accountability. If it was a few you might get away with describing it as an accident, but 24 civilians is a sure lot of accidents. My thoughts are 1. As Redneck said: the message to Iraqis "Your lives are worth nothing" 2. The propaganda created that the insurgence and al qaeda will certainly use. 3. The fate of US troops that are ever captured.
__________________ "My center is giving way, my right is in retreat; situation excellent. I shall attack." -Foch I get this question a lot. I am from NYC. I fly a French flag because I work for the Paris Office of a International company. |
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