yes temperaly, but not for long

china and unitedstates could never become long term allies

as demostrated, 2 superpowers cannot be allies

one tries to backstab another while the other thinks up of a plan to backstab the other

yes temperaly, but not for long

china and unitedstates could never become long term allies

as demostrated, 2 superpowers cannot be allies

one tries to backstab another while the other thinks up of a plan to backstab the other

China isn't a superpower.

Originally Posted by Whispering Death

China isn't a superpower.

Yet.

Sounds like something you would hear back in the 1950's, during the cold war in my opinion. Don't you love propaganda and scare tactics?

Yep its the kind of paranoid thinking that leads to the creation of another cold war.

Unfortunately the guy that wrote it is somewhat prone to tunnel vision as he only see's the US and China as the two waring "superpowers" what he isnt looking at is the economic/military and population growth of areas such as India and European Union it is entirely possible that in the future the world will have multiple "superpowers" to offset any single agressive one.

The fact that we're even having to discuss this burns my butt big time. If Truman had allowed MacArthur to exercise his command of military strategy, communism would have been driven out of China by the point of a gun back in the 1950's.


Another tragic lession in history - when a politician who has no inkling of military strategy tries to run the war effort, pandemonium ensues, sooner or later.

In this case, it ensued later; unfortunately, what was later to them is sooner to us. Now we have to deal with it.

Originally Posted by rkmac48

The fact that we're even having to discuss this burns my butt big time. If Truman had allowed MacArthur to exercise his command of military strategy, communism would have been driven out of China by the point of a gun back in the 1950's.

By attacking China on its mainland through MacArthur's strategy, I figure that would risk war with the Soviet Union as well.

Originally Posted by Arclight

By attacking China on its mainland through MacArthur's strategy, I figure that would risk war with the Soviet Union as well.

Could be. But if we, the free world, had gone to war with China, Russia, and North Korea, how many millions would have not been subjected to ruthless Communitst purges? It would have been the ultimate containment. Vietnam would not have occured... and the list goes on and on.

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Originally Posted by rkmac48

Could be. But if we, the free world, had gone to war with China, Russia, and North Korea, how many millions would have not been subjected to ruthless Communitst purges? It would have been the ultimate containment. Vietnam would not have occured... and the list goes on and on.

That is only if we could win. The Soviets could put up a good fight in Europe and the Chinese in Asia.

China aint bent on world conquest.

If the US actually made an effort China could be a long term ally and good ones at that. They couldn't stay allied to Russia because they had a corrupt leader and a rebellious government/society.

Originally Posted by Arclight

That is only if we could win. The Soviets could put up a good fight in Europe and the Chinese in Asia.

Yeah, but we had nukes. The soviets did too, thanks to the Rosenbergs... but we'd have wiped them out. The U.N. may actually have been useful back then - likely, it would have supported a massive effort to stop China and Company.