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July 3rd, 2011   #11
Del Boy
 
Sunday 3 July 2011- A perspective by Peter Hitchens:-

Bound for Gaza with a cargo of propaganda

We must all get ready for another season of ignorant attacks on Israel as a new fleet of alleged relief ships heads for Gaza. It is not relief. It is propaganda. How do I know? Last September I visited Gaza, with some trepidation.
I found plenty of misery there, though it is clear that much of this is maintained for propaganda reasons and could easily be put right by the rich Arab world if it wanted to. But I also found many things that the propaganda reports do not mention – including a shopping mall, beach parties and luxury restaurants.
I inspected the enormous tunnels through which large quantities of goods, including cattle and building materials, are smuggled from Egypt. There is also, in this so-called prison camp, quite a lot of open space, much of which I am glad to say is now being used for the cultivation of food.


Those who doubt my word are urged to read a series of reports in the Left-wing New York Times, which last week reported the opening in Gaza City of a second shopping mall and two luxury hotels.


It's a funny old world, ain't it?




English by the grace of God.

 
July 3rd, 2011   #12
senojekips
 
 
If the above is true, why retain the shipping embargo, as obviously any weapons could be smuggled in therough these wonderful tunnels.

I think you're reading a blatant piece of Zionist inspired propaganda as it doesn't seem to agree with the other 99.99% of information being provided by news agencies and private companies and individuals.


"I am totally responsible for what I write,... however I cannot be held responsible for your complete inability to understand"

 
July 4th, 2011   #13
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by 84RFK
Nah, a compromise dictated on the victors terms can hardly be a real compromise.
Not wishing to appear pedantic but a compromise is a settlement of differences by mutual consession therefore while circumstances may dictate a compromise (ie Japan at the end of WW2) a victor can not dictate a compromise as that would not be a mutual agreement.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Boy
Sunday 3 July 2011- A perspective by Peter Hitchens:-

Bound for Gaza with a cargo of propaganda

We must all get ready for another season of ignorant attacks on Israel as a new fleet of alleged relief ships heads for Gaza. It is not relief. It is propaganda. How do I know? Last September I visited Gaza, with some trepidation.
I found plenty of misery there, though it is clear that much of this is maintained for propaganda reasons and could easily be put right by the rich Arab world if it wanted to. But I also found many things that the propaganda reports do not mention – including a shopping mall, beach parties and luxury restaurants.
I inspected the enormous tunnels through which large quantities of goods, including cattle and building materials, are smuggled from Egypt. There is also, in this so-called prison camp, quite a lot of open space, much of which I am glad to say is now being used for the cultivation of food.


Those who doubt my word are urged to read a series of reports in the Left-wing New York Times, which last week reported the opening in Gaza City of a second shopping mall and two luxury hotels.


It's a funny old world, ain't it?

The problem is that it is propaganda fueled and fed by Israel, if they did not go overboard about every little thing there would be far less ammunition with which to make them look bad.

Lets face it, if I want to make you look bad and I know that sneaking up and poking you in the ribs was going to get you to start swinging, shouting, screaming blue murder and hurling rocks through my windows I would be a fool not to use that method now wouldn't I.

Israel is the architect of its own poor image in the world the Palestinians are just making use of it, Isreal has a belief that because of the holocaust they can get away with murder and in 1950 that may have been the case but 60 years later it really doesn't hold up anymore.


We are more often treacherous through weakness than through calculation. ~Francois De La Rochefoucauld

Last edited by MontyB; July 4th, 2011 at 04:36..
 
July 4th, 2011   #14
rattler
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Del Boy
Sunday 3 July 2011- A perspective by Peter Hitchens:
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hitchens

All Marxists/Trotzkists that turn suddenly extreme right are suspicious in my eyes. Not commenting on the content here (where I also disagree, I have been to Gaza last year and have carried home different impressions) but on the person: Commie, left after a while; then Labour, after a while left saying "no party anymore never"; then Conservative, then left, then far right wing UIKP, then left ("amateurish folks), now finally independent (?)

We have had in Germany and Spain several ppl changing political sides thus dramatically (e.g. from Commies to Nazis, or vice versa: Mussolini, Horst Mahler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Mahler , Emil Carlebach http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Carlebach etc.), all seem to be in the end of the authotarian type and supportive/apologetic with such systems, be they from the right or left. Fine with Israel, they are probably on the right track then.

But, in this case, I cannot take this person as a serious contributor, reeks Israel paid propaganda.

NOTE: I am not saying someobody should be ignored politically simply because he changed his mind about things he believed in the past (I myself did so, becoming older, and I am in good company: Our ex chancellor Helmut Schmidt, when arguing something diametrally opposed to his stance 10 years earlier stated with verve "Why should I bother about my prattle from yesterday...?"), but so often, so erratic, and with soooo many reasons....? At least makes me doubt about the thouroughness of his analytical capabilities.

FWIW,
Rattler


15M(ay): Noooobody! ...expects the Spanish Revolution!:
Update SEP 2011: Now reached US, called "Occupy Wall Street" and they claim they invented it. Thanks for learning from Spain!

Last edited by rattler; July 4th, 2011 at 18:05..
 
July 5th, 2011   #15
Del Boy
 
Ah yes - everybody must get stoned. lol.

In The Guardian, James Silver describes Hitchens as "the Mail on Sunday's fulminator-in-chief"[35] and his columns as "molten Old Testament fury shot through with visceral wit".[35] Hitchens has said of his reputation: "I know a lot of people consider me to be disreputable or foaming at the mouth, but you have to learn not to care, or at least not to mind. I don't like being called 'bonkers' and I think to some extent it demeans people who use phrases like that. But I take comfort from the fact that most totalitarian regimes tend to classify their opponents as mentally disordered."[35]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_H...itical_history

Last edited by Del Boy; July 5th, 2011 at 17:46..
 
July 5th, 2011   #16
rattler
 
 
Good one, mister... ROFL!

Just for the sake of argument: "Totalitarian" is not the same as "authoritarian", at least im my book.

Still, nice strike, well done and appreciated!

Rattler
 



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