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August 9th, 2008   #1
Lunatik
 
 

Israel warns Russia: We'll neutralize S-300 if sold to Iran info


Aug. 8, 2008
Yaakov Katz , THE JERUSALEM POST

If Russia goes through with the sale of its most advanced anti-aircraft missile system to Iran, Israel will use an electronic warfare device now under development to neutralize it and as a result present Russia as vulnerable to air infiltrations, a top defense official has told The Jerusalem Post.

The Russian system, called the S-300, is one of the most advanced multi-target anti-aircraft-missile systems in the world today and has a reported ability to track up to 100 targets simultaneously while engaging up to 12 at the same time. It has a range of about 200 kilometers and can hit targets at altitudes of 27,000 meters.

While Russia has denied that it sold the system to Iran, Teheran claimed last year that Moscow was preparing to equip the Islamic Republic with S-300 systems. Iran already has TOR-M1 surface-to-air missiles from Russia.

Mixed media reports have emerged recently regarding the possible delivery of the system to Iran. Two weeks ago Reuters quoted a senior Israeli official who said the system would be delivered to Iran by the end of the year. In response, the Pentagon released a statement rejecting the assessment and saying that the US did not believe Iran would get it in 2008.

According to the Israeli defense official who spoke to the Post, "no one really knows yet if and when Iran will get the system."

A top IAF officer also said this week that Israel needed to do "everything possible" to prevent the S-300 from reaching the region.

"Russia will have to think real hard before delivering this system to Iran, which is possibly on the brink of conflict with either Israel or the US, since if the system is delivered, an EW [electronic warfare] system will likely be developed to neutralize it, and if that happens it would be catastrophic not only for Iran but also for Russia," the defense official said.

Neutralization of one of the main components of Russian air defense would be a blow to Russian national security as well as to defense exports. "No country will want to buy the system if it is proven to be ineffective," the official said. "For these reasons, Russia may not deliver it in the end to Iran."

Also on Thursday, Defense Minister Ehud Barak told an Italian paper that a nuclear Iran would be "dangerous to world order."

Barak emphasized that all options for dealing with threat of a nuclear Teheran were "open and ready," and stressed the importance of "strengthening and accelerating economic sanctions against Iran."

"Either way, we need to keep every option open. If they provoke us, or they attack us, our army is prepared to attack and to succeed uncompromisingly," he asserted in an interview with the daily Corriere della Sera . "It's up to us to find the best way to get the best result with minimum damage," Barak added.

"Iran confirmed its message when it stood against the whole world: to deceive and to reject. Their aim is to obtain an atomic bomb," he continued.

The defense minister also spoke of the results of the Second Lebanon War, telling the Italian paper, "Two years ago, we saw the price that's paid for a lack of an experienced leadership. Nevertheless, today we're equipped with a good understanding to prevent this from happening again."

He added that UN Security Council Resolution 1701 that brought an end to the war was inefficient since Hizbullah, Syria and Iran were doing what they wanted in Lebanon.


 
August 9th, 2008   #2
The Other Guy
 
 
This could get exciting way too fast...


I'm the bleeding heart liberal your mother warned you about.
 
August 9th, 2008   #3
AikiRooster
 
 
You shouldn't be too excited TOG, if it gets really hairy, your perfect age for being drafted Homeboy.

This is not good. I am feeling like all of this is starting to be a like a little timer on the oven, waiting for the ding.




Anger itself does more harm than the condition which aroused anger.
- Samurai maxim
 
August 9th, 2008   #4
The Other Guy
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AikiRooster
This is not good. I am feeling like all of this is starting to be a like a little timer on the oven, waiting for the ding.
I know what you mean.

I hear the Caucasus is nice this time of year...
 
August 9th, 2008   #5
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Other Guy
This could get exciting way too fast...
Pfft its all a storm in a teacup, Israel can rattle its saber all it likes but in the end the Russians will still do whatever is in their own best interests and I am guessing that will involve getting paid for installing an S-300 and a best of all they will be getting orders for replacement parts..


Quote:
Originally Posted by The Other Guy
I know what you mean.

I hear the Caucasus is nice this time of year...
Maybe you should ask some of Army Group South they were there last and a lot of them are still there.

In the end all this threat and counter threat nonsense is just that "nonsense" as nothing can nor will be done unless Russia does something incredibly stupid such as attacking a nuclear armed country and that is just not going to happen.
NATO isn't going to attack Russia hell they can't even put together enough troops to secure Afghanistan and the USA isn't going to risk nuclear war over Georgia or an Iran/Israel confrontation.


Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices. - Voltaire 1694-1778
 
August 9th, 2008   #6
03USMC
 
 
My guess Russia blows off Israel sells it anyway.

Israel plasters it on the ground in Iran before it becomes operational.


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August 9th, 2008   #7
MontyB
 
 
Its a possibility/probability, the problem is that the gap between Israel and its Middle Eastern neighbours appears to be closing in terms of military ability so success may not be a foregone conclusion.

On the whole though I don't think Russia will mind selling replacement parts to the Iranians.
 
August 9th, 2008   #8
SHERMAN
 
 
Quote:
Its a possibility/probability, the problem is that the gap between Israel and its Middle Eastern neighbours appears to be closing in terms of military ability so success may not be a foregone conclusion.
Firstly, i dont think that is true. If you ask me its widened if at all changed.

Secondly, 1967 war had the arabs in complete tech supeirority and they lost.


 
August 9th, 2008   #9
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SHERMAN
Firstly, i dont think that is true. If you ask me its widened if at all changed.

Secondly, 1967 war had the arabs in complete tech supeirority and they lost.
One of the things my father always said about Arab armies was that no one who's motivation to sign up was 3 meals a day and pair of boots would ever make good a soldier no matter how much technology you threw at them.

I think that this explained the poor showing of Arab nations through the 50s and 60s but the advent of oil money and self determination is changing this and with the growing nationalistic identity, cash and a middle class you are starting to see more "professional" Arab force.
 
August 9th, 2008   #10
AikiRooster
 
 
more professional terrorist force it seems to me. professional in the sense that they can kill ya good.
 



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