Originally Posted by sherman105

Christos, You lack basic understanding of the middle-east and it's conflicts. You speak of things you know nothing about. Israel did not start the 1967, or the 1956 wars. The Egyptians closed the bay of eilat to Israeli shiping both times. Both times the Arab nations were arming for conlict with Israel. The Egyptians allready declared war on Israel before the 1967 war started. I wouldent call the invasion of lebanon a smart military action, it was a mistake. But lebanon was(and is) a breeding ground for terror. The 17500 Lebanese you refer to, well if you mean the Sabra and Shatila affair, the killers were acctually Christian-Lebanese.

Cough. cough, I lack?

If you knew your history, you'd know that the Sabra and Shatila massacre claimed at most 3000 lives! The chat talks about the massacre of Lebanese in general after the invasion; I'm not exactly sure if it includes the S&S massacre.

But chris In the End The Isrealy's won and now is the only power in the middle east whats done is done...

(btw the egyptians pushed back the isrealys in isreal and were about to invaded if it wasint for the peace treaty...)

And in the end :
"The art of war is, in the last result, the art of keeping one’s freedom of action"
- Xenophon, Greek historian (c. 430-355 BC)

firstly-Christos, I never said anything about the amount of dead in abra and shatila, notice i said "if you mean" I knew that figure was not matching, but obvcourse, nothing you wrote there resembls the truth, so who can tell....Frankly, im sick of this nonsens. Israel is, was, and will be the only true democracy in the middle east.

J2f, who would imagin, i agree with you. The arabs in 1967 were planning to destroy Israel.

Oh, Redleg, am i not the best for keeping civil? Im trying hard..........................

yes who would have thaught... especialy that christos and i are good friends...

Never would have guessed that .

(I'm joking there, in case anyone was wondering .)

Originally Posted by Darkmb101

Isreal never messed with the USA, now did it?

How Iraq has ever messed with USA?

The reason why saddam became how he did is because the us gave weapons to saddam to fight off the iranian islamic revolution...and when saddam had depts the US turned there backs on him...HENCE the hatred for the US

Originally Posted by Jtf2

The reason why saddam became how he did is because the us gave weapons to saddam to fight off the iranian islamic revolution...and when saddam had depts the US turned there backs on him...HENCE the hatred for the US

hc^patonki wrote:
How Iraq has ever messed with USA?

Well, first off the United States are currently fighting a war against terrorism. The same terrorists group of terrorists which attacked the World Trade Center. We knew Saddam had been training, suppling and paying for these terrorists. So, we cut off the head of terrorist organization by destroying Saddam's regime. Besides, the man was killing his own people; once we were there we had the power to help the suffering people of Iraq by ending Saddam's regime.

But thats not the point of this thread as FutureRANGER said,
Isreal: GOOD Guys
Iraq: BAD Guys