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February 16th, 2007   Post 1
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Post; Iraq resolution passes House


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Senate to consider similar measure Saturday
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Updated: 3 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - The Democratic-controlled House issued a symbolic rejection of President Bush's plan to deploy more troops to Iraq on Friday, opening an epic confrontation between Congress and commander in chief over an unpopular war that has taken the lives of more than 3,100 U.S. troops.
The vote on the nonbinding measure was 246-182, with 6 not voting.
"The stakes in Iraq are too high to recycle proposals that have little prospect for success," said Speaker Nancy Pelosi, leader of Democrats who gained power last fall in elections framed by public opposition to the war.
"The passage of this legislation will signal a change in direction in Iraq that will end the fighting and bring our troops home," she vowed.
Bush's Republican allies said repeatedly the measure would lead to attempts to cut off funds for the troops. Outnumbered, they turned to Rep. Sam Johnson of Texas to close their case - and the former Vietnam prisoner of war stepped to the microphone as lawmakers in both parties rose to applaud his heroism.
"Now it's time to stand up for my friends who did not make it home, and for those who fought and died in Iraq already," he said. "We must not cut funding for our troops. We must stick by them," he added, snapping off a salute as he completed his remarks to yet another ovation.
Bush made no comment on the developments, and his spokesman said the commander in chief was too busy to watch the proceedings on television.
After a secure videoconference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, Bush said the Iraqis were reporting progress: providing troops to fight alongside Americans, making sure that no ethnic or religious factions are ignored in the security operations, providing $10 billion toward reconstruction and working on an oil revenue-sharing law.
The developments in the House marked the first vote of the new Congress on the war. Roughly 400 of 434 lawmakers spoke during four days of a dignified debate - an unusual amount of time devoted to a single measure.
Moving quickly, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has called a test vote for Saturday on an identical measure, and several presidential contenders in both parties rearranged their weekend campaign schedules to be present.
Republicans said in advance they would deny Democrats the 60 votes they need to advance the resolution, adding they would insist on equal treatment for a GOP-drafted alternative that opposes any reduction in funds for the troops.
The developments unfolded as a new poll showed more than half those surveyed view the war as a hopeless cause.
A sizeable majority, 63 percent, opposes the decision to dispatch more troops, although support for Bush's decision has risen in the past few weeks from 26 percent to 35 percent, according to the AP-Ipsos poll.
President undeterred
The House measure disapproves of Bush's decision to increase troop strength, and pledges that Congress will "support and protect" the troops.
Bush has already said passage of the measure will not deter him from proceeding with the deployment of another 21,500 troops, designed primarily to quell sectarian violence in heavily populated Baghdad.
Already, troops of the Army's 82nd Airborne have arrived in Iraq. Another brigade is in Kuwait, undergoing final training before proceeding to Iraq. Three more brigades are ticketed for the Baghdad area, one each in March, April and May.
In addition, the Pentagon is sending two Marine battalions to Anbar province in the western part of the country, the heart of the Sunni insurgency.
Bush and his allies in Congress calculated days ago that the House measure would pass, and increasingly have focused their energy on the next steps in the Democrats' attempt to end U.S. participation in the war.
"I'm going to make it very clear to the members of Congress, starting now, that they need to fund our troops," Bush said earlier this week, a reference to legislation that requests more than $93 billion for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.
White House plays down resolution
As developments on Capitol Hill went forward, the White House sought to play down the impact of the debate and vote. The president himself made no comment on it - with his spokesman saying he was too busy to watch - and turned instead toward Iraq. He reported after a secure videoconference with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki that progress is being made.
The president said that the Iraqi leader briefed him on several recent steps by his government: providing troops to fight alongside Americans, making sure that no ethnic or religious factions are ignored in the security operations, providing $10 billion toward reconstruction and working on an oil revenue-sharing law.
"I was pleased that he's meeting benchmarks that he has set for his government," Bush told reporters. "That's good news for the Iraqi people. And it should give people here in the United States confidence that his government knows its responsibilities and is following through on those responsibilities."
Democrats have made clear in recent days they will use Bush's spending request to impose certain standards of readiness, training and rest for the troops.
"That stops the surge (in troops) for all intents and purposes, because ... they cannot sustain the deployment," Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said recently.
Republicans pointed to his remarks repeatedly during the day as evidence that despite their claims to the contrary, Democrats intend to cut off funds for the troops.
"This is all part of their plan to eliminate funding for our troops that are in harm's way. And we stand here as Republicans...committed to making sure our troops in harm's way have all the funds and equipment they need to win this war in Iraq," said Rep. John Boehner of Ohio, the Republican leader.
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February 16th, 2007   Post 2
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A fine example of a waste of time and tax dollars.
 
February 16th, 2007   Post 3
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Originally Posted by The Cooler King
A fine example of a waste of time and tax dollars.
Add "lives" to that statment and it would read a lot like something someone opposed to the Iraq War might say.
 
February 16th, 2007   Post 4
The Cooler King
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I'm talking about their useless resolution which does absolutely nothing except undermining the mission of the military.
 
February 16th, 2007   Post 5
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Originally Posted by Gator
Add "lives" to that statment and it would read a lot like something someone opposed to the Iraq War might say.
Thats also whats gonna happen when we start to pull troops out. All the lives already sacrificed will be in vain. Thats why we MUST finish what we started.
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February 16th, 2007   Post 6
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Originally Posted by C/1Lt Henderson
Thats also whats gonna happen when we start to pull troops out. All the lives already sacrificed will be in vain. Thats why we MUST finish what we started.
All signs point to the War will be waiting for you, I'd say theres plenty of time to get you trained up, and shipped out, no need to rush things along.

Last edited by Gator; February 16th, 2007 at 21:28. Reason: moved comma
 
February 16th, 2007   Post 7
Rob Henderson
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Originally Posted by Gator
All signs point to the War will be waiting for you, I'd say theres plenty of time to get you trained, up and shipped out, no need to rush things along.
*rolls eyes* There is a need to rush things along, there are lives already being lost and lives will continue to be lost. We need this thing over as quick as possible. I know the war will probably be waiting on me, and guess what...IM READY FOR IT. Well, thats a lie, no one can be truely ready for combat, but I'll tell you one thing...Im ready to do my part. Im ready to give a little back to my country. How bout you, Gator?
 
February 16th, 2007   Post 8
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I've given more then you will ever know, and, more than you would ever want to know.
I've also paid more Tax than you have in your 16 years on Earth.... the same goes for The Godfather.
 
February 17th, 2007   Post 9
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A fine example of defeatism and lack of will to fight
 
February 17th, 2007   Post 10
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Originally Posted by phoenix80
A fine example of defeatism and lack of will to fight
Well, you can always move to America, become a US Citizen, Register to Vote, and have your voice heard on Election Day.

That will take time though.
 



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