About Is Iran a Threat? Page 5
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|April 15th, 2012||#43|
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In my opinion I think Iran is not going to make nukes but you suppose that my supposition is wrong.
You know that two or three nuclear weapons canít be a deterrent weapon for Iran against thousands west nukes or hundreds Israel nukes. So your reasoning can be the competition between ME countries and the world following it.
You suppose that Iran stop and destroy all his nuclear activities for this reason. So what will happen for west and others countries nukes?
Do they agree to destroy their nukes?
And if they donít, what is their reason to have those?
|April 15th, 2012||#44|
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The US forces in Iraq are all gone. There is no threat from Iraq to Iran, on the contrary, the two countries like each other very well.
US forces invaded Afghanistan because of 9/11, not because of Iran. Iran does supply the Taliban with weapons.
Iran supplies weapons to Hezbollah (Lebanon is the world's biggest ammunition depot) and Hamas, which covenant demands the destruction of Israel.
Iranian weapons shipments were intercepted by Israel, Turkey, Nigeria (13 containers!), Yemen, NATO troops in Afghanistan and US naval forces.
UN Security Council resolution 1747 bans arms export from Iran.
The Iranian Quds Force has been described as "tasked with exporting" Iran's Islamic revolution or "responsible for extraterritorial operations" of the Revolutionary Guard and reports directly to the Supreme Leader of Iran Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. The translation is .....Jerusalem Force.
In 2006, Hassan Abbasi, Head of the Iranian Centre for Doctrinal Strategic Studies, said: "Britain's demise is on our agenda." He added: "We have a strategy drawn up for the destruction of Anglo-Saxon civilization.
ahmadinejad and khamenei on israel and the us and the uk
|April 15th, 2012||#45|
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1. That Israel, UK and the USA must be destroyed.
2. Nuclear research is for peaceful purposes.
Are they both true or false? And if only one is true then why are they lying?
|April 15th, 2012||#46|
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Unfortunately, all too many simply cannot place themselves into the shoes of foreigners who have experienced the heavy boot of the British Empire and the U.S. Empire.
If I were Iranian I would see the world in this way.
All we hear from U.S. officials is how aggressive Iran is ó how it is threatening the world with its aggression ó how itís trying to get WMDs to initiate a nuclear war against the United States ó how necessary it is to spend billions of dollars on a missile defense system in Europe to protect against an Iranian attack.
Itís all a bunch of propagandistic crock.
Is Iran surrounding the United States with troops in Mexico and Canada? Are Iranian naval vessels patrolling the coastlines along the eastern and western United States and in the Gulf of Mexico? Is Iran imposing sanctions on the United States, covertly assassinating American scientists, and covertly engaging in cyber attacks on American computer facilities? Is it Iran that is flying spy planes over the United States? Is it Iran that has invaded and occupied two countries in the last 10 years? Is it Iran that has embarked on an international program of kidnapping, torture, assassination, secret international prisons, torture partnerships with brutal dictatorships, and extra-judicial execution?
No, itís the other way around. It is the U.S. Empire that has Iran surrounded, with imperial troops around the region. It is the U.S. Empire whose foreign policy is committed to violent regime change operations in nations like Iran ó either covertly as the CIA did with Mossadegh or overtly like the Pentagon did with Saddam Hussein. It is the U.S. Empire that has invaded and occupied two countries in the past 10 years. It is the U.S. Empire that is undoubtedly engaged in covert operations in Iran. It is the U.S. Empire that has spy drones flying over Iranian air space. It is the U.S. Empire that is characterized by kidnapping, torture, assassination, secret prisons, torture partnerships with brutal dictatorships, and extra-judicial executionsóthe things that would be considered state terrorism if they were being done by Iran or any other nation.
And, of course, itís the British government, harkening back to its halcyon days as an empire, that tags along, doing whatever the U.S. Empire does in the hopes of basking in its imperial glory.
Donít get me wrong. The Iranian people are suffering under a cruel dictatorship. No doubt about that. But the dictatorship is no more cruel than it was under the Shah, whom Britain and the United States installed into power, after violently ending Iranís attempt at democracy. But the fact that Iranians are governed by a cruel dictatorship doesnít mean that the dictatorship is bent on worldwide conquest.
|April 15th, 2012||#47|
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Although I do agree on Iran attacking first.
Plus this proves a point to Iran, the U.S. has done it before, they will be ready to do it again. With the type of regeime in charge at the moment, I am not one bit surprised that they are seeking more araments and tools of warefare.
Recent police action in Libya and proposed actions against Syria do nothing but irritate this.
Contracts for the purchasing and maintiaing of the new Iraqi armed forces equippment is being handled by American enterprises.
So not much has changed there. Take a look at Iraqi arms inventories and equiptement and cross reference some of it with it's place of manufacture, much of it is built on American soil.
Having a foreign military power right next to you changes region movements a bit.
As with the recent U.S. drone incident it's already apparent the U.S. is scoping over the border.
If for example China or Russia had observation points in Mexico for instance, it would be a riot with conservatives the nation over if this were in North America.
Although I think U.S. foreign policy makers often don't want to admit this, but the U.S. has a very loose tolerance of where it channels arms of any type, this has been a recuring factor and even reigniting new wars like in the instance of Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1991.
America has also supplied weapons to countless revolutionary organizations in the 20th century that resulted in the overthrowing of mulitple goverments.
In this case a lot of what this has to do with is who is manning the TV and Radio satelites and barks out the condemnation first, a real measure of who can shout the "history" and "news" the loudest over the Airwaves.
Intercepting them can help neutralize this type of situation in some respects and should be continued.
I have no doubt these inentions are good, but it negates that fact that ideals that are suited for Americans have been shown to not be entirely shared by the nations that the U.S. military operates in.
You can't force feed on the tip of a bayonet your ideas of right and wrong, especially when dealing with a comptley different culture, it doesn't work.
You may like the color Blue, But if I like green another cool color along the same lines, I might not be in agreeance with you if you kicked in my front door an painted my walls Blue.
Last edited by Yossarian; April 15th, 2012 at 19:32..
|April 15th, 2012||#48|
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Why the west countries have thousands nukes? they want those just for defence or they can use those as a threaten ?
|April 16th, 2012||#49|
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Because they had thousands of nukes before NPT was created. U.S/NATO, Russia, and China do not need nukes to threaten or defend against any nation except each other. I suggest you look at the track record U.S has when it comes to disarming its nuclear weapons.
I will have you know Russia and U.S (not sure about the other 3 countries) have been decreasing their nuclear arms steadily. You never want to fully destroy your nuclear stockpile when some other adversary country still has theirs. As I said earlier in this thread, if some country is getting a nuke (or believed to be getting a nuke), then the countries that already have it is going to have a hard time convincing it's people to go through with more disarming processes.
I do not know if Iran is in fact trying to obtain a nuclear weapon and I do realize the west could make this go a little easier, but Iran can also end it just as the west can. If you ask me, it is like Iran is begging for an airstrike. I am not sure if Israel will hold off long, especially after the U.S elections.
|April 16th, 2012||#50|
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It's all too easy now that the US has a stockpile capable of killing every living thing on earth several times over, to forbid other countries from wanting to have a mutually assured destruction defence against their enemies.
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