But also there are very much likely many weak spots that we have to cover in order to move combat from American soil to the terrorists doors.

Yes there are air marshals, and everything... But I think the terrorists are not that stupid, You must make your enemy in plans the worst he can be in order to beat him! But maybe they will have the same tactics, because we don't expect them to do that again.....

Originally Posted by Big_Z

and possibly the most trianed people on the planet the CIA who's training could possibly put the delta force and british SAS training to shame.[I might be wrong because i know the delta force works with the CIA but still}

What?



Uncle_Sam, try not to make back to back posts. If you make a post, and decide afterwards you have more to say, simply edit your post and add the new thoughts to it.

Originally Posted by RnderSafe

What?

I think Big_Z' comment should've been posted in the humor section. I really hope he's not serious.....

lol i didnt mean the cops are gona wip any asses. I was just trying to get the point across that our military would just be a small part of what you would be fighting. I had allot to drink when i posted that but the CIA are well trained. And also the FBI HRT ct team is considered supurb.

So patriotic

Originally Posted by Big_Z

lol i didnt mean the cops are gona wip any asses. I was just trying to get the point across that our military would just be a small part of what you would be fighting. I had allot to drink when i posted that but the CIA are well trained. And also the FBI HRT ct team is considered supurb.

Well we have some "superb" chefs and hairdressers, too, think they'd put up much of a fight too?

Originally Posted by goaliedude66630

Is it possible to take over the United States with out takeing so many casualties that it would be worht it

if the us pissed off enough countrys they could join together or try by themselves to invade the us. and as far as the casulties it would depend on the leadership of the country/countrys as to wether thay thought it was worth it. would probably be huge but would depend on the type of weapons used? biological/chemical or normal?

but that goes for any country annoy to many ppl for to long and somethings bound to happen?

I will grant that elite units within a parent organization are superbly trained and highly skilled in what they do.

But let's take a minute to look a bit closer. I'll use the FBI's HRT as an example, but the comments apply to pretty much any of the other units.

The Hostage Response Team was created for a specific purpose -- to rescue hostages. It is a specialized task towards which all their training is geared. I'm not saying that they are not adept at marksmanship, small-unit tactics, and other military skills that may serve them in an invasion scenario. However, their training and general mindset would make them less effective as a partisan commando than some would believe. I would equate them in capability roughly with SWAT teams and National Guard Military Police units -- better than the typical run of civilian warriors, but not necessarily front-line troops.

The other disadvantage to these guys is that there aren't many of them. I don't know how many HRTs there are, but I know that they are scattered around the country and, even if you could get them all together in one place, I don't think that there is more than a heavy platoon of them.

The only exceptions that I can think of are the US Marine Embassy Guards and the US Army soldiers who guard the Tomb of the Unknowns. In both cases, the men in question are fully-fledged members of their branch of service who rotate the duty assignments with others who have qualified for the special duty. (The 3rd Infantry even has a couple of units deployed right now, if I remember correctly.)

I believe that he makes a good point, but I also believe that if Americans were backed into a corner, even the chefs, garbage-men, etc, would put up a good fight.