Topic: HOW TO SINK AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER? 2

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July 6th, 2004   Post 11
AlexKall
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Aircraft would probebly out of question if you look at modern Carriers protection systems. Best bet would probebly be a missile, but you would need a very low flying missile and a very accuret one to make it work, also you would need a few

Mine field?
 
July 6th, 2004   Post 12
Mark Conley
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Gentes, please be realistic:

Only Chinese PLA is planning to sink US CBG's

So:
Open sea East of Taiwan, 1000 KM from Chinese coast (1000KM for the fighter jets attacking range).

How can Chinese PLA sink American CBG's.

And the American threat is coming soon ....



On the lighter side of things: aw come on flying frog...equal opportunity for all. Your country ain't the only guy on the block that would want a carrier... They are just too juicy a target to resist. Sort like eating lays potato chips...you cant eat just one.

I would imagine with that type of Air and Naval aviation units the PLA has, you could just over whelm the carrier's support groups defenses with sheer numbers. I mean there are only so many missiles..planes..and bullets to throw at an attacking force. What was that old saying? " hey Sarge, how many hordes in a chinese rifle platoon"?

No finesse maneuvers...weapons...or tactics needed. Just a big hammer and lots of balls to do it.

heres to the targets...
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July 6th, 2004   Post 13
FlyingFrog
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ennnh, it will be a hard time for me to think about the HOW TO stuff, let's rest a bit first then I try to dig something out ..
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July 6th, 2004   Post 14
Mark Conley
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Oh Yes..lets try to keep the comments to topic, such as we are aircraft carrier sinking nerds there guy...
 
July 6th, 2004   Post 15
Kirruth
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Gear

Or we could work out how America could sink China's new aircraft carrier when it launches in two or three years time
 
July 6th, 2004   Post 16
Eric
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As far as Exocet type missiles are concerned, the solution was found after the Falklands with the Phallanx system:

Gatling type 20mm multi-barrelled guns with high rate of fire and guided by low altitude radars able to detect and target fast flying low altitude missiles. A hail of bullet would automatically destroy the incoming missiles before they hit the target.
Only a massive "all front" attack would take a US carrier: air, surface and underwater simultaneous attack by dozens of missiles would be needed to overcome all the cumulated defenses of the carrier and its 3 dimensional long range escorts.

Maybe a MRV nuke or high altitude nuke explosion to generate massive electro magnetic pulse over the whole fleet???
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July 6th, 2004   Post 17
FlyingFrog
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Maybe a MRV nuke or high altitude nuke explosion to generate massive electro magnetic pulse over the whole fleet???
No nuke please, otherwise we are all dead

Let's first assume there is only one CBG. OK, I know US can deploy 5 CBG's at same time, but now just one CBG

1 CSG traditionally consists of:
- 1 nuclear aircraft carrier (Crew Approx 5500)
- 2 guided missile cruisers (approx. 200 each)
- 1 destroyer (approx. 200)
- 1 guided missile destroyer (approx. 200)
- 1 AEGIS cruiser (approx. 1200)
- 1 frigate
- 2 SSN's
- support ships (ammunition, oiler, and supply ship)
 
July 6th, 2004   Post 18
FlyingFrog
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I am just a bit confused, do we need to sink a Carrier after all?

What's the purpose of a Carrier? Carring fighter jets right? So the ultimate role to destroy the CBG is to destroy the jets carried on it.

So, it is in fact a air-air war
 
July 6th, 2004   Post 19
Mark Conley
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like i said...so many planes...so many bullets...
 
July 6th, 2004   Post 20
AlexKall
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Originally Posted by FlyingFrog
I am just a bit confused, do we need to sink a Carrier after all?

What's the purpose of a Carrier? Carring fighter jets right? So the ultimate role to destroy the CBG is to destroy the jets carried on it.

So, it is in fact a air-air war
Thats a very good point!