Topic: How do you see the Philippines as an ally? 2

Big_Z · October 21st, 2004

The Philippines have it rough. They fight terrorist on a daily basis, just as much as Israel if not more. I think its great that American SF can help your guys out as much as possible. You guys are pretty much on the front lines of the war on terror and America is glad to help you in any possible way.

Chocobo_Blitzer · October 21st, 2004

I was not aware the Filipino's were actively fighting terrorist orgs.

Nor did I know SF were deployed there.

the_13th_redneck · October 21st, 2004

The Israelis probably face them more often, but the Ibu Sayaf and the like in the Philippines are dangerous because they can cooperate and coordinate with elements in neighboring Indonesia. Then the party really gets rough.

Big_Z · October 21st, 2004

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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck

The Israelis probably face them more often, but the Ibu Sayaf and the like in the Philippines are dangerous because they can cooperate and coordinate with elements in neighboring Indonesia. Then the party really gets rough.

Well Israel is trying to stop cowards with bombs on their chest. The Philippines are fighting gorilla armies. I guess it just really depends on how you look at it. The Scout Rangers fight pretty much every day. I believe the final phase of getting into the scout Rangers is going to a terrorist hotzone and if you survive the battle you make it in. That just shows you the amount of terrorist they are up against.

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Originally Posted by Chocobo_Blitzer

I was not aware the Filipino's were actively fighting terrorist orgs.

Nor did I know SF were deployed there.

American SF train the Filipino's, they were fighting terrorist long before 9/11.

Brotchador · October 21st, 2004

IT's good to know that many of you guys see us an ally in this global war against terror, although i noticed a few who are not even aware of some things like your green berets training our troops, like the Scout Rangers. It's true that they can not graduate unless and until they've had their "baptism of fire" so to speak. Your S.F. also has trained if i'm not mistaken 2 LIGHT REACTION COMPANY's, they are armed and equipped with american equipment, i.e., M4 carbines, nvg's ballistic vest, etc.

Let me point out that the majority of Filipinos are christians, we are mainly of Malay stock and not of chinese descent, (Presdent Arroyo is not of chinese origins) it was the other Lady president (mrs. aquino) who is of chinese descent, fyi Chocobo_Blitzer we do like the Americans, and we like them a lot, although it has always been classified as a love-hate relationship! this relationship has been on since before the philippine revolution against spain, even before the arrival of Commo. George Dewey. Many of America's great generals cut their teeth in battle here, Mcarthur, Eisenhower, Pershing and so on. In fact it can be said that the Philippines was America's first Vietnam, there are events that happened during the so called Philippine Insurrectuion that is better of not mentioned here.

Our fight against terrorism has gone on for decades and claimed hundreds of thousands of lives on both combatants and no-coms, it has hampered development and caused immesurable damage to our economy, back in the 60's the Philippines was considered second only to Japan in development, look at us now! we are considered as the sick man of asia!

The Abu-Sayyaf is connected to Al Qaida and Jemaah Islamiya, a terrorist mainly based in Indonesia, but reports have it that their main training facilities are in Mindanao, inside the Camps of the seccesionist Moro Islamic Liberation Front, another terrorist group which broke from the former Moro National liberation Front. Yes we've had it rough, but still our soldiers fight on, regardless of the on-going corruption scandal involving high ranking military officers, despite the lack of basic equipment, the holes in their combat boots, the crackers and one (1) can of canned sardines that make up their meal for a day, the lack of ammo. because of rumors that certain officer sell them to the enemy!

The Filipino soldier has endured and miraculously survived and actually grown better. With the help of the Americans and other partner nations, he will be at par with the best in the world.

Chocobo_Blitzer · October 21st, 2004

Yeah I had thought the Philipines was one of those nations who burn the American flag, thought America was Nazi Germany, etc...

oops

Big_Z · October 21st, 2004

I have the pleasure of talking to Rangers from time to time and they told me about the Scout Rangers. They say they are great soldiers and they have allot of respect for them. I think soldiers from both sides are annoyed that American SF arent allowed to fight in the Philipines though.

godofthunder9010 · October 21st, 2004

Didn't mean to leave out the 'Ally in the War On Terror' part. I'm fully aware of it, though not anything like a Filipino. My brother lived there for 2 years and Americans are strongly advised to not go anywhere near that island. The Ibu Sayef like to kidnap Americans and my brother says they're a bunch of thugs.

Brotchador · October 21st, 2004

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Originally Posted by Big_Z

I have the pleasure of talking to Rangers from time to time and they told me about the Scout Rangers. They say they are great soldiers and they have allot of respect for them. I think soldiers from both sides are annoyed that American SF arent allowed to fight in the Philipines though.

By rangers, do you mean US army rangers? they're not even allowed to join patrols! Abu-Sayyaf terrorist said they welcome and look forward to tangling with american special forces operatives.... said amercans make perfect targets because of their height and heft!

Big_Z · October 21st, 2004

Yea i meant US Rangers.

"Abu-Sayyaf terrorist said they welcome and look forward to tangling with american special forces operatives.... said amercans make perfect targets because of their height and heft! "

Too bad they wont have the pleasure of meeting them. They have allot to learn.

October 21st, 2004	Post 12
Chocobo_Blitzer Primus Pilus	I was not aware the Filipino's were actively fighting terrorist orgs. Nor did I know SF were deployed there. __________________ \"The superior man, when resting in safety, does not forget that danger may come. When in a state of security he does not forget the possibility of ruin. When all is orderly, he does not forget that disorder may come. Thus his person is not endangered, and his States and all their clans are preserved.\"

October 21st, 2004	Post 13
the_13th_redneck No Chance Outside Gear	The Israelis probably face them more often, but the Ibu Sayaf and the like in the Philippines are dangerous because they can cooperate and coordinate with elements in neighboring Indonesia. Then the party really gets rough. __________________ I don't exist. TRESPASSERS WILL BE PROSTITUTED Next time you travel http://www.epictrip.com

October 21st, 2004	Post 15
Brotchador Immunes	IT's good to know that many of you guys see us an ally in this global war against terror, although i noticed a few who are not even aware of some things like your green berets training our troops, like the Scout Rangers. It's true that they can not graduate unless and until they've had their "baptism of fire" so to speak. Your S.F. also has trained if i'm not mistaken 2 LIGHT REACTION COMPANY's, they are armed and equipped with american equipment, i.e., M4 carbines, nvg's ballistic vest, etc. Let me point out that the majority of Filipinos are christians, we are mainly of Malay stock and not of chinese descent, (Presdent Arroyo is not of chinese origins) it was the other Lady president (mrs. aquino) who is of chinese descent, fyi Chocobo_Blitzer we do like the Americans, and we like them a lot, although it has always been classified as a love-hate relationship! this relationship has been on since before the philippine revolution against spain, even before the arrival of Commo. George Dewey. Many of America's great generals cut their teeth in battle here, Mcarthur, Eisenhower, Pershing and so on. In fact it can be said that the Philippines was America's first Vietnam, there are events that happened during the so called Philippine Insurrectuion that is better of not mentioned here. Our fight against terrorism has gone on for decades and claimed hundreds of thousands of lives on both combatants and no-coms, it has hampered development and caused immesurable damage to our economy, back in the 60's the Philippines was considered second only to Japan in development, look at us now! we are considered as the sick man of asia! The Abu-Sayyaf is connected to Al Qaida and Jemaah Islamiya, a terrorist mainly based in Indonesia, but reports have it that their main training facilities are in Mindanao, inside the Camps of the seccesionist Moro Islamic Liberation Front, another terrorist group which broke from the former Moro National liberation Front. Yes we've had it rough, but still our soldiers fight on, regardless of the on-going corruption scandal involving high ranking military officers, despite the lack of basic equipment, the holes in their combat boots, the crackers and one (1) can of canned sardines that make up their meal for a day, the lack of ammo. because of rumors that certain officer sell them to the enemy! The Filipino soldier has endured and miraculously survived and actually grown better. With the help of the Americans and other partner nations, he will be at par with the best in the world. __________________ \"The General has given me the pick of all the men that can be spared and ordered me to defend the Pass. I realize what a terrible task has been given me. And yet i feel that this is the most glorious moment of my life. What i do is done for my beloved country . No sacrifice can be too great.\" Gen.Gregorio del Pilar 24 years old, on the night of 1 Dec. 1899 at Tirad Pass, he was killed the next day battling American troops.

October 21st, 2004	Post 18
godofthunder9010 Tribunus Laticlavius Gear	Didn't mean to leave out the 'Ally in the War On Terror' part. I'm fully aware of it, though not anything like a Filipino. My brother lived there for 2 years and Americans are strongly advised to not go anywhere near that island. The Ibu Sayef like to kidnap Americans and my brother says they're a bunch of thugs. __________________ "It is well that war is so terrible, else we should grow too fond of it." - General Robert E. Lee Warning, critical pebkac error in the iD10t!! pebkac\wtflolurpwnzd\snafuroflmao.exe called iD10t, iD10t failed to respond!! System in danger!! "It takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. I am NOT a big man." -Chevy Chase

October 21st, 2004	Post 11
Big_Z Primus Pilus Gear	The Philippines have it rough. They fight terrorist on a daily basis, just as much as Israel if not more. I think its great that American SF can help your guys out as much as possible. You guys are pretty much on the front lines of the war on terror and America is glad to help you in any possible way.

October 21st, 2004	Post 16
Chocobo_Blitzer Primus Pilus	Yeah I had thought the Philipines was one of those nations who burn the American flag, thought America was Nazi Germany, etc... oops

October 21st, 2004	Post 17
Big_Z Primus Pilus Gear	I have the pleasure of talking to Rangers from time to time and they told me about the Scout Rangers. They say they are great soldiers and they have allot of respect for them. I think soldiers from both sides are annoyed that American SF arent allowed to fight in the Philipines though.

October 21st, 2004	Post 20
Big_Z Primus Pilus Gear	Yea i meant US Rangers. "Abu-Sayyaf terrorist said they welcome and look forward to tangling with american special forces operatives.... said amercans make perfect targets because of their height and heft! " Too bad they wont have the pleasure of meeting them. They have allot to learn.