Originally Posted by Cadet Seaman

Sorry if a seemed a bit overbearing, CAP is my life.

Thats too bad. I think life outside of CAP is actually pleasant. I guess I'm just tried of the people and politics that come along with being in CAP. As for being overbearing, you didn't come close to what I'm used too in my Sq.

Originally Posted by alliehz

Thats too bad. I think life outside of CAP is actually pleasant. I guess I'm just tried of the people and politics that come along with being in CAP. As for being overbearing, you didn't come close to what I'm used too in my Sq.

Well, my family is all military or retired military, so this is the closest thing I have until I join the Guard. I try and do my best in everything I do.

While I do have a life outside CAP it consists of airsoft, finding a job, cutting wood, building models, reading and trying to get enough money to buy a laptop.

guys, i know i should search for this but i want an inside view. what is CAP? civil air patrol yes, but like a JROTc? what?

Originally Posted by FULLMETALJACKET

guys, i know i should search for this but i want an inside view. what is CAP? civil air patrol yes, but like a JROTc? what?

Look at the page befor this one.

Civil Air Patrol is a dying thing in NJ. We only have like 516 cadets and that is not even alot. I am only a c/sRa but we have to recuit or we not going even have planes or SAREX. we have to use this


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Seniors in this Unit: 27

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Seniors in this Wing: 615
Cadets in this Unit: 16
Cadets in this Wing: 591

Originally Posted by Turner

Civil Air portal is a dieing thing In NJ we only have like 516 cadets and that is not even alot i am only a c/sRa but we have to recuit or we not going even have planes or Sraex we have to use this

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Seniors in this Unit: 27


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Seniors in this Wing: 615
Cadets in this Unit: 16Cadets in this Wing: 591

Ok, a little edit - please re-read your posts. Apparently you are as dyslexic as I am - just takes a few more seconds to read over what you post.

Also, you have the coolest abbreviation in the entire cadet program - C/SrA. Please do it right.

CAP is a dying program everywhere. In their efforts to keep the cadet program numbers increasing, National has managed to push away their more experienced, older cadets. Younger officers with undeveloped leadership skills are being trusted to take over squadrons, which is very frustrating. Promotions are becoming based on book knowledge, testing, drill, and time in grade, instead of maturity and the application of the book knowledge.

Emergency Services have become a "let's do this and keep it looking good." In all honesty, I could just be in the ES part of the program. My theory - if I'm doing my job, I honestly don't care how the media see's me when I come off of a mission, as long as I found that person, that plane, that ELT and my job is complete - I consider myself doing pretty good.

During a SAREX, I had an officer come up to me and ask why my hair was not in regs. He said it was a bad look on public eye. I asked him to look at my boots, look at my uniform and look at my gear. If I came strutting out of the woods with my hair up, my boots shined, my uniform clean, and my gear clean (it always looks like I just put it on - NOTHING moves unless i move it - <3 my blackhawk), then I'm going to have a hard time convincing that mother that I just did my very best looking for her child. I look undedicated, and considering my surrounding, unprofessional. I don't step in mud on purpose, and I don't create my own battle scars, but I just do my job. That's what I think CAP is all about.

However, everybody is trying to be a hero and emerge looking cool and refreshed. Doesn't happen. I don't understand how you can do that.

So... CAP can have it's Aerospace, it's now effect up GTM3,2,1 stages... and all that jazzz.... i'm gonna go play victim and give people hell when they mess up...

Originally Posted by >*CrAzY*<

Emergency Services have become a "let's do this and keep it looking good." In all honesty, I could just be in the ES part of the program. My theory - if I'm doing my job, I honestly don't care how the media see's me when I come off of a mission, as long as I found that person, that plane, that ELT and my job is complete - I consider myself doing pretty good.

During a SAREX, I had an officer come up to me and ask why my hair was not in regs. He said it was a bad look on public eye. I asked him to look at my boots, look at my uniform and look at my gear. If I came strutting out of the woods with my hair up, my boots shined, my uniform clean, and my gear clean (it always looks like I just put it on - NOTHING moves unless i move it - <3 my blackhawk), then I'm going to have a hard time convincing that mother that I just did my very best looking for her child. I look undedicated, and considering my surrounding, unprofessional. I don't step in mud on purpose, and I don't create my own battle scars, but I just do my job. That's what I think CAP is all about.

However, everybody is trying to be a hero and emerge looking cool and refreshed. Doesn't happen. I don't understand how you can do that

Take it from a PJ, there aren't any heroes when it comes to SAR, just a mission to do and uniform standards are not a factor, equipment and performance standards are. Every SAREX you guys do needs to be treated like the real thing. No one should ever be thinking, "well, it's just an exercise."

You've got the right mindset, now you just have to work at slamming that reality home to the others, but also don't let them bring you down, stay motivated.

I was always proud of the CAP cadets that came through PJOC, APJOC, Hawk Mtn when I'd help out. For the most part, they seemed willing and eager to learn, and very serious about what we had to teach them, those that weren't went away quickly.

Originally Posted by Cadet Seaman

Sorry if a seemed a bit overbearing, CAP is my life.

Well you do sign the membership papers in blood...I mean, pen...lol
Agreed CAP becomes your life