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January 11th, 2008   Post 11
Infern0
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Originally Posted by AZ_Infantry
No way will she EVER be my Commander in Chief. Not now, not ever. Hell, could you see her at nuclear arms talks? "I don't know, Mr. Il, I've never made a decision before. What do YOU think? Oh, ignore the Joint Chiefs [giggles]. Boys and their toys, ya know."


one day, i think the US may drag it's self out of the 1930's in regards to attitudes towards female leaders. look around, other countries have had effective, strong willed female leaders.


im not saying this necessarily about clinton (she's not my pick) but writing of a potential president just because she has internal genitals is a bit silly
 
January 11th, 2008   Post 12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Infern0
one day, i think the US may drag it's self out of the 1930's in regards to attitudes towards female leaders. look around, other countries have had effective, strong willed female leaders.


im not saying this necessarily about clinton (she's not my pick) but writing of a potential president just because she has internal genitals is a bit silly
You WAY mistook what I wrote, my friend.

Hillary being Hillary has nothing to do with her gender. In my eyes, she's just another John McCain with absolutely zero redeeming credentials as a leader and way too much tolerance to make the hard decisions.

I explained this quite well.

Whether she sits or stands to pee if of no consequence to me.

My men in the field, where and when we're deployed, and the amount of support our military gets ARE, however, key deciding factors. In all of that, plus my personal endearments (2A freedom, freedom to worship my God, not bowing to PC, etc) she fails miserably.

The fact SHE fails miserably is of no concern to my ticket, my gender, or my system of beliefs.

Please don't try and apply labels where none exist. I am neither sexist or chauvinistic. I simply want the best person in office representing our country. Hillary, Obama, John... None of these idiots fit the bill, and I could care less if they are men, women, transsexual, trans gender, satanists, Christians, young, old...

I just want this country back in shape. That takes a leader.

Sorry we are not seeing eye to eye on this, but where did you ever draw that I wouldn't vote for her just because she has a menstrual cycle? Be specific, please - I'd like to clear up the confusion so we can enter a real discussion. Show me where that attitude exists in my post, and I will apologize or defend as necessary.

Thanks!
 
January 11th, 2008   Post 13
Del Boy
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Originally Posted by AZ_Infantry
Errr, you're British, LOL!

Edit: Kidding about the British thing (flag) and quite drunk. Wheeeeeeee!

No offence taken - like it. But you can't put a fag paper between England and Ireland.

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January 11th, 2008   Post 14
Infern0
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Originally Posted by AZ_Infantry
You WAY mistook what I wrote, my friend.

Hillary being Hillary has nothing to do with her gender.


i'm going to re-quote for emphasis here;


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"I don't know, Mr. Il, I've never made a decision before. What do YOU think? Oh, ignore the Joint Chiefs [giggles]. Boys and their toys, ya know."

^^^
that sentence make no sense, if her gender isn't a problem for you
 
January 12th, 2008   Post 15
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I don't think the US has that much against female leaders. I do think that theres a better choice than Clinton among female politico's. And thats simply because I do not trust her. Nothing she says rings true. Then again I'm jaded towards politicians in general and anyone named Clinton in particular.
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January 12th, 2008   Post 16
Infern0
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I don't think the US has that much against female leaders. I do think that theres a better choice than Clinton among female politico's. And thats simply because I do not trust her. Nothing she says rings true. Then again I'm jaded towards politicians in general and anyone named Clinton in particular.


i wouldn't trust her either, but i see in a lot of comments about her, things that would never be said about male politico's

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January 12th, 2008   Post 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Infern0
i'm going to re-quote for emphasis here;





^^^
that sentence make no sense, if her gender isn't a problem for you
Well, either we have a communication problem or you're just being obstinate - most likely, you're just too filled with hype from the media to look past anything.

The fact she can't make a decision has nothing to do with her being a woman.

It's the fact she CAN'T MAKE A DECISION.

Just because I used "boys and their toys" to add a bit of levity doesn't make me sexist. Levity - you know... ha ha?

Sorry you feel otherwise, but I gave MANY reasons she'll not get my vote. Picking out one funny comment and twisting it out of context to make me appear biased against women is just silly.

Being a capable president isn't about gender. It's about making the hard decisions. Hillary cannot and will not make hard decisions, and her sitting in the House will doom this country. Just like McCain. We don't need people in the White House looking at the floor, shuffling their feet, going "Errrm, ummm, I dunno."

The idea YOU demand I give her a chance just because she IS a woman is where the only issue of gender bias comes in. The woman is and always has been a sh!tty politician who runs on one platform: She's a woman against the war. I can't help the fact she's a nitwit anymore than she can help the fact she's a woman. But her being an idiot isn't based on her gender, it's based on the fact that she chooses to be an idiot.

I don't want to argue about this. Take me for what you will, but you've got it all wrong (and won't accept correction).

Sorry we disagree.
 
January 12th, 2008   Post 18
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Don't know where people get this idea that women like Hillary, I have yet to meet one who does.

And I agree with AZ, Hillary doesn't make decisions, she is however very good at dodging questions and shifting blame. For instance, when asked about a hypothetical situation involving the "ticking bomb" imminent terror attack, detaining persons illegally (but suspected of involvement), and the scenario was authored by one Bill Clinton, Hillary responds with "Well I'll have a talk with him tonight." without actually saying anything about how she would handle the situation. Every Hillary response is nothing but an elaborate "We'll cross that bridge when we get there." or some idealist b******t about Iraq and the Middle East.
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January 12th, 2008   Post 19
MontyB
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Hmm lets see:
- Dodges questions.
- Shifts the blame.
- Full of catch phrases .

She sounds like 99.9% of the worlds politicians to me, these are people that make a living out of lies and self interest why is a bad trait in her and not the others?
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January 12th, 2008   Post 20
Del Boy
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[quote=AZ_Infantry;391568]Well, either we have a communication problem or you're just being obstinate - most likely, you're just too filled with hype from the media to look past anything.

Picking out one funny comment and twisting it out of context to make me appear biased against women is just silly.



Agreed. Yes, he is just a sniper.
 



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