About Hi... former USMC... please read this thread
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Hi... former USMC... please read this thread info
For instance, when I got out of the Corps, I had a difficult time looking at civilians as anything other than targets -- fat, excuse-making targets. I think that the thing I noticed the most was that civilians made so many excuses as to why they couldn't do so many things. Any military person knows that excuses go NOWHERE in the service, and I just couldn't understad how people even made progress with all the excuses they made - I'm tired, I am sick, my leg hurts, my alarm didn't go off, my car wouldn't start, etc. They made me so angry sometimes... lol
I also noticed things like the fact that civilians tend to drink less. It seems to be taboo to drink alone, while many people I knew in the Corps regularly drank alone.
It's different for me now that I have lived among them for a few years, but it wasn't always so. I am doing research on the military culture, from the transition of inprocessing, through service and past outprocessing and reincorporation into civilian society. Does anyone else have observations or experiences with this? I will even take gender issues. Please help me...it's important. I hope that this research will help civilians to see our side a little more clearly. Thanks for reading.
Last edited by rulingusmc; April 5th, 2009 at 07:21.. Reason: title
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(Hopefully with the permission of mods - and maybe they allow us to share the results here also as I expect them to be fairly interesting for anybody interested in such stuff -) and as this is something I also have lived to a certain extent (not in combat as a mil guy but later as a war photo journalist) I will be forwarding this to another forum where we are currently preparing an interview with vietnam USMC veteran(s) and will come back with the answers I get from them (sorry, as the interview(s) are in progress currently the respective thread over there is not open to general public yet until we are through).
We have, though, already set up a sound track site with vids that the veterans are searching and sharing, sith some comments that show the direction they are aiming and some exclusive footage and explanations they give (again, mods! this is not to draw ppl to there, just to inspire and willing to share here if somebody is interested...): http://www.warandtactics.com/smf/index.php?topic=981.0
15M(ay): Noooobody! ...expects the Spanish Revolution!:
Update SEP 2011: Now reached US, called "Occupy Wall Street" and they claim they invented it. Thanks for learning from Spain!
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First let me say, Welcome to the forum! I hope you enjoy it here!
Second, it was amazing to find your topic here. We were discussing the same thing at my American Legion post yesterday. My daughter was discharged from the Air Force last week. She is currently going through some of what you described.
"The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any war, no matter how justified, is directly proportional to how they perceive the veterans of earlier wars were treated and appreciated." ~George Washington
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Welcome aboard, rulingusmc.
"It doesn't take a hero to order men into battle. It takes a hero to be one of those men who goes into battle." - Norman Schwarskopf, Commander of Desert Storm Operations
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Welcome. The adjustment back into the world is pretty bumpy. The only out of town funerals I attend, except for family, are Army buddies. We just lived and worked so close that we actually became a family of sorts. Civilians just didn't speak the same lingo as the military.
“War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.”
—John Stuart Mill
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This goes over nations, many of my ex mil friends are from other countries, some from countries we at my active duty times were not really friendly with, but as they all had to follow/suffer (more or less) the same treads this makes them family, nothing equal, and a general bound (and obligation) often not understood by civilians.