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September 28th, 2005   Post 1
bulldogg
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Post; Here we go again, Falklands Style.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050926/...s_argentina_dc

Looks like Argentinia smells blood in the water mates. A war weary UK and forces abroad fighting terror. Argentine wants these islands back and my guess is they figure now is the time to push.
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September 28th, 2005   Post 2
Whispering Death
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There's no way that's going to work out in their favor.
 
September 28th, 2005   Post 3
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The first thing that struck my mind reading the article was "amphibious warfare" in disfavour of Britain. British troops being enganged abroad in various campaigns, it is possible for Argentina to capture the Falklands without any major problems. Ok the Brits have 2000 troops on the islands but how long will they manage to hold their fortifications?

The Brits managed to pull off the former Falklands conflict in their favour both military and logistics wise, but it would be much harder today.

During the 1980s most countries had an enormous force pool in case of the cold war growing hot - take a look on the "Gulf War I" - thanks to the 1980s military politics and fundings by Ronald Reagan and Thatcher it was possible to establish the coalition forces at that strenght at zero time. The cold war had just ended, the US and UK, plus the rest of the NATO countries, had large forces available before the 1990s budget cuttings.

The scenario now is British troops being busy abroad in various campaigns, it will take time for a task force to help the Falklands - Who play the joker if this conflict comes to life? Certainly not Britain at first sight.
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September 28th, 2005   Post 4
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As A Former resident of this Island I can say that this news is really not good. I have family and friends out there on that little rock. Most of the islanders, think o fthemselves as Falkland islanders not brits, but I knwo the last thing they want is to be under argentinian rule.

Port stanley (the capital) has a small ammount of local forces. most of the forces are in Mount Pleasent airport. which is a good distance away. The odd's this time are not in our favour, and becuase of our troops being used in Iraq, We have little chance of getting a force up to go there to defend the place in enough time.

we can but hope that like the first falklands war, where we did actually loose first but then regain victory, it can be pulled off again.

But with how bliar is, he'll probably just give up the islands in favour of keeping troups in Iraq so he can please his love master President Bush.

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September 28th, 2005   Post 5
ironhorseredleg
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I would be willing to bet that there's been at least 1 major US/British naval vessel within 1 day's journey of the Falkland Islands since the war. I would not want to send my "2nd generation without combat" troops against the battle hardened, experienced British troops that would be on the islands within hours of a new conflict. Even the most agressive hardliner has to realize that.
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September 28th, 2005   Post 6
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The Argentine Goverments tend to start sword rattling when their in trouble. Hoping to ride a wave of Patriotism and taking the middle and lower classes minds off the economy and social issues. The Falklands are their prefered target.

Yes they could invade and probably secure the Falklands. The have done it before. But holding it is a totally different proposition.

The Argentine Military is like most Latin American Formations. A core of career Officers and NCO's with the majority consisting of Conscripts or one hitch volunteers. The best trained units are generally SF or Airborne which are present only in small numbers. The training in regular units is varied from good to deplorable as is morale and leadership.

Against a trained professional Military like the UK especially in a confined area such as an Island their chances don't look good IMO.
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September 28th, 2005   Post 7
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I don't think PM Blair will hesitate to retake the Islands but I think there will be a different approach along with troop ships. There will probably be more carrier support which will arrive a little quicker with troop helicopters and special ops. I wouldn't be surprised if there is an agreement between the US and Britain for support this go around. IMO.
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September 29th, 2005   Post 8
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This not good didn't they learn back in 82 not mess with Great Britania
unless Ven.Prez is prodding them to do so. they will be sorry again.
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September 29th, 2005   Post 9
FutureDevilDog
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If things were to heat up more, would the US step in? And if so, might I add,
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September 29th, 2005   Post 10
ironhorseredleg
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I would hope they would, though you never know when military decisions are left up to politicians on the campaign trail (read US politicians, anytime, anywhere, except election night).