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December 15th, 2005   Post 31
AlexKall
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Bones
My comment was of a general nature. As I had stated:

Quote:
"FACT:
Past selections have shown (for anyone willing to "look") that those who have an extremist view critical of the US government or US policy are selected for certain Nobel prizes more often than those who support or advocate US policies and the US government."

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It could very well be a coincidence (I don't know.)

It just seems very strange to me that so many nominees and winners of the Nobel Prizes have such extremist views of America and it's policies. Statement was general in nature and was NOT used to indite, it was used to point out an interesting fact (that's all).

FACT:
The subject of this post in case you have forgotten is:
"Hating America key to Nobel Prize"

I thought my statements added to the discussions (nothing more - nothing less).
Roger that, just wondering

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December 15th, 2005   Post 32
Missileer
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldogg
Which Nobel prize is being lambasted here because I would like someone to explain to me how the hatred of America would play into the Nobel prize for economics given to John Nash? Or the Nobel prize for physics or medicine?

Are you all just on about the Nobel prize for peace??

Or are you smoking some genetically modified hemp?
You didn't read the original post did you? Tsk! tsk! tsk! What AM I to do with you Mr. B? Now, in your books, turn to page 1 and.....

This year's winner, Harold Pinter, loathes America in a way that would make Hugo Chavez blush.
In his recent Nobel lecture, Pinter compared the United States to the Soviet Union-a regime that killed up to 40 million of its own people. Then Pinter took it a step further by lamenting the fall of that evil regime since Stalin and his type provided "constraint" against US policies.
Pinter then described America's foreign policy this way:

"It means that you infect the heart of the country, that you establish a malignant growth and watch the gangrene bloom. When the populace has been subdued - or beaten to death - the same thing - and your own friends, the military and the great corporations, sit comfortably in power, you go before the camera and say that democracy has prevailed."
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December 15th, 2005   Post 33
godofthunder9010
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Zyonchaos, Europe has had to confront terrorism for a lot longer time that the USA, Britain especially. Some approaches have sortof worked but most have not. The current US approach is something that's never exactly been tried. Its also gotten a lot of people very angry.

Michael Moore is such a complete idiot that is blows my mind that he ever got anything but deported. Hollywood is liberal to the point that many Democrats are embarrassed by them. But the point is taken: US policy has plenty of criticism within the USA and we shouldn't demonize everyone with something negative to say about what we are doing currently. Its counterproductive and not terribly polite.

In case anyone was wondering, I'm neither Democrat nor Republican. I prefer to think of myself as a free thinker who doesn't need a political party to think for me.

I'm not very familiar with Pinter, but everything I've seen/heard here would indicate that he absolutely hates the USA.
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December 15th, 2005   Post 34
mmarsh
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Godofthunder

Your arguement is correct, but your mistaken in one detail. France has the longest history against Islamic extremism. France's struggle against instead started way back in the Algerian War. Britan is reletively new to the war, in fact Britian new anti-terrorism laws this year are based on the French model.
 
December 15th, 2005   Post 35
godofthunder9010
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I was actually referring to Britain's dealings with the IRA, but I don't have any idea whether that started before Frances problems.
 
December 15th, 2005   Post 36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted
Ehh, Micheal Moore also got an oscar, but I reckon the Hollywood-ness makes it less prestigious. And, but you guessed that already, Oscars are given by Euroewinnies.
LoL... Read again, I was talking about French Movie award in Cannes
 
December 15th, 2005   Post 37
Missileer
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Actually, Cannes is an ancient Icelandic curse word but can be loosely translated as "those who have absolutely zero abilities in judgement of the merits of animated pictographs."
 
December 15th, 2005   Post 38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Missileer
Actually, Cannes is an ancient Icelandic curse word but can be loosely translated as "those who have absolutely zero abilities in judgement of the merits of animated pictographs."
http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=...+award&spell=1
 
December 16th, 2005   Post 39
Ted
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I know Cannes is in France Phoenix. But I was referring to Micheal Moore getting prestigious prices. And so it seems not only by Eurowhinnies... that's all
 
December 16th, 2005   Post 40
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Oscar is run by dumb leftists! ((Actually most hollywoodians are leftists))