Hamas now holds some 2/3rds of the Palestinian parliament.

Almost unthinkable when you muse it practically. We just witnessed the democratic election of a terrorist state.

This just prove those people do not really want peace with Israel, but they simply want its destruction.

This also proves the naivety and stupidity of the "enlightened" Europeans who have been so anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian all this time, having helped given birth to a terrorist state are now having to find themselves reversing their position.

it seems to be a warning signal to the Fatah movement which is very corrupt and unreformable.

I think these terrorist organizations may quit their violent actions if they become politically and democratically engaged.

We shall see.

But for now it doesn't look good...

Iran hails Hamas victory

Iran and Hamas are allies and declared in December that they represented a "united front" against Israel. "The Palestinians have voted for the resistance and have shown their loyalty," Asefi said...


...But on 15 December, Khaled Meshaal, the Hamas political chief said during a visit to the Iranian capital that his group would step up attacks against Israel if the Jewish state took military action against Iran over its disputed nuclear programme...

..."Each member of this front defends itself with its own means in its region. We carry the battle in Palestine. If Israel launches an attack against Iran, we will expand the battlefield in Palestine," he said...

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...DEE19C150A.htm

Even if they do stop their outward voilence a radical group like this will still be dedicated to the destruction of Israel.

Correct

Hamas and the Mullahs of Iran are both terrorists by nature and allies!

Originally Posted by gladius

This just prove those people do not really want peace with Israel, but they simply want its destruction.

This also proves the naivety and stupidity of the "enlightened" Europeans who have been so anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian all this time, having helped given birth to a terrorist state are now having to find themselves reversing their position.

Hold on Gladius... who's the one spreading "democracy" in that region by force? What if your democracy experiment gives rise to something like that too? Will you blaim Europe again?
Or is that your definition of democracy that if you don't like what you see, you send in the military?

Its been a no-win situation through the region for a long long time. Everytime that somebody inquires, "Gee, why don't we depose Dictator X or Monarch Y and install a Democratic System." The people more familiar with the dynamics in the Middle East tend to have the same response: "Are you crazy, if you do that the Extremists will take power within the week!" But like it or not, we're rushing headlong into a grand experiment to see if Democracy works in that corner of the world.

In this case, with Hamas having been Democraticly elected as the governing political party over Palestine/Palestinians, it creates some interesting things at least. Hamas and others tended to refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of the nation of Israel. Now with Hamas in power, it must be them that carry out any negotiations with Israel (at least that's a pretty good assumption.) By forcing Hamas to have an open dialogue with the State of Israel, this effectively forces Hamas to imply that Israel does exist and is legitimate. The only alternative is for them to refuse to have any dialogue with Israel, which would be counterproductive and pretty stupid.

We'll see how it all plays out.

Actully one of the reasons Hamas was elected was because of the promises it made to help Palestine get back on its feet.

I was watching a thing on the newsa week ago, about this town in Palestine that had one of the First Hamas mayor. Within a a few months, unelepoyment was down to almost nil, the roads were being widened and paved, and construction had started on a new school and hospital had begun. Crime had gone down, due to a major crackdown on corruption, the mayor even cut power to his parents home becuase they were a day late in paying their bills. Nobody was exempt of the law.
With all these innovations, how could the people of Palestine not vote for Hamas.
However Hamas will be incharge of all officals matters in Palestine. It will be allowed to purchase weapons legally from other nations, it will be allowed to recruit anyone it pleases into the Army and the Militant wing of Hamas.
I see it as history repeating. I don't need to name the dictatorships that started out like this.

Originally Posted by gladius

This just prove those people do not really want peace with Israel, but they simply want its destruction.

This also proves the naivety and stupidity of the "enlightened" Europeans who have been so anti-Israel and Pro-Palestinian all this time, having helped given birth to a terrorist state are now having to find themselves reversing their position.

Care to explain how Europe is responsible for palestinians voting in Hamas in what has so far been a legitamite election or is "European" now the "opps they didnt do what we wanted" word for the month in the right wing part of America?

Bory is right. I'm not surprised when I think about it in the scheme of history. Hamas has been playing this game very well, they're much more than an al-quada-ish terrorist organization. They are more similar to the Nazi party in the weinmar era where they have a millitary wing but also do a lot of good for their community. So in that instance it isn't surprising at all.

What is surprising is when you step back and look at it in the context of current world state... it's completely surprising that the people have elected a terrorist state!

Care to explain how Europe is responsible for palestinians voting in Hamas in what has so far been a legitamite election or is "European" now the "opps they didnt do what we wanted" word for the month in the right wing part of America?

gladius is responding to the fact that "liberal" minded nations have traditionally backed the Palestinians while America has backed Israel. So with the European backing they have now aided the creation of a terorrist state in effect.