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November 10th, 2007
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| Primus Pilus | Post; You guys, help me out, what's this?http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...arch&plindex=3 Some of us, have already seen this, now, I am still skeptical, but the signs, well some of them, are there. (don't even click on it if you are not going to watch all 1 hr and 40 mins of it, please....don't). I will just wait for some one to post, and then I will compare my perception, and see who is right.
__________________  "This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience"- Dwight D. Eisenhower , Jan 17,1961. Last edited by tomtom22; November 12th, 2007 at 01:33. Reason: spelling |
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November 10th, 2007
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | That's quite a tall order. But when I can find the time, I will give it a whirl, since you ask. *
__________________ . I’ve been a puppet, a pauper, a pirate, a poet, a pawn and a king. I've been up and down and over and out and I know one thing . Each time I find myself flat on my face I pick myself up and get back in the race. |
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November 10th, 2007
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| Primus Pilus | Thank you, for the kind gesture.  |
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November 10th, 2007
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | Can you tell me what it is about before I decide whether or not to sit down for the full 1 hour and 40 minutes?
__________________ Please note that 98% of what I say is my opinion and/or my "version" of the facts. Most of what I say is rumor with little to no evidence to back it up, just something I picked up somewhere. My City |
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November 10th, 2007
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| Tribunus Laticlavius  | Well Sukio, this is a good question. I reckon it is something in which you can find a number of answers. I turned it off under 5 minutes, for the value is about zilch. Those minutes raised more questions of which I have my own answers. The fact that "a way of life" is used as motive, is already enough to get me going. It suggests that there are more ways, but aren't these good enough to fight for? And what if "they" love their way of life as much as you do yours... is it still worth fighting for? For they will think the same.... A never ending story, that is what I call it.
__________________ A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. Sir Winston Churchill |
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November 11th, 2007
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| Nuclear Duck Hunter  | It's a montage of anti-capitalism clips by a doomsday organization. In other words, propaganda from the far, far left. http://www.socialistworld.net/ "The committee for a workers' international (cwi) is a campaigning international socialist organisation based in over 35 countries. The cwi is part of the struggle to overthrow the rule of big business and global capitalism. We fight for a democratic socialist society internationally. Join us today." Venezuela Hugo Chávez and Socialism A contribution to the international debate Tony Saunois, CWI, London Tuesday 30 October 2007 more... Latin America in revolt The 21st century will be one of socialism New introduction to Brazilian edition of Marxism in Today's World Peter Taaffe, General Secretary, Socialist Party, England and Wales Friday 5 October 2007 more...
__________________ “War is an ugly thing but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feelings which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.” —John Stuart Mill |
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November 11th, 2007
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| Primus Pilus | I guess anyone will go to any lengths to make a seemingly true montage of world footage involving the U.S. looking bad. But even though some of it may be somewhat true. The parts about the U.S. arms market, and the Politicians acknowledging PMCs, as a financial benefit, seems to fit the bill. But being on the line of corruption? The rest of the just is a waste of time. Also about all the other crap about the U.S. being a world empire. Listen, we are not nowhere near being a world empire. Last time I checked, U.S. territory's, all of them added together, would only make us what, the 4th largest nation in the world? Also the other stuff about the build up of arms during the cold war, nowhere in there did it acknowledge the equal Soviet Threat. There are points in this propaganda film, but, also there is the other 99% of it that is garbage. I do not even see how this movie, is a remake of the original or even remotely related to the original "Why we Fight". Which I have seen. In that movie it was to orientate to the average U.S. solider in WW ll about how the Axis worked their way to world conquest and why he should fight. To help make him think, that the U.S. was in the right. But that was then, and this in now, looking back we can realize that not every individual in WW ll was either a soldier of justice, or a soldier of tyranny. But they, on both sides, like in many other conflicts before and after, shared the same burdens of war.... That's when the movie "Why we Fight" seemed not to apply anymore? I don't know, but now in this new film, what exactly is it getting at? And why did it take something from the past that hundreds of thousands saw as a reason to get fired up for war, and then turn it into something that will change a feeble minded American's thoughts about his country. This is to me just another one of those films, to be honest, I just found it will looking up the new Episode of the Ma china series, "Une Adventures Bill Et John". Which seems to make more of a point then this film. Which, I found was very convincing, until I hit the pause button.... Last edited by Sukio; November 11th, 2007 at 13:57. |
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November 11th, 2007
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | Did you guys actually watch the entire film? |
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November 11th, 2007
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| Primus Pilus | I did, did you? |
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November 12th, 2007
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| Nuclear Duck Hunter | Unfortunately, yes. I'm also part of the so-called evil Defense Industry and have been since 1965. |
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