Topic: Guns of WWII 4

SHERMAN · June 28th, 2004

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Webley revolver

Really? You think so? I heard that it was heavy and bad.

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3) Rifle: The Enfield or maybe the Mosin-Nagant (because of its dependability in the worst conditions).

What about the Mauser K98k?

bush musketeer · June 29th, 2004

i'd have to agree with maciste about the webley, it may of been heavy but it was one of the most dependable revolvers ever made. the earlier models were useful in combat because of there heavy .455 caliber. it was also made in .38 cal.

The reason the .455 cal was chosen was due to an incident in india when an english officer fired 6 .32 cal rounds into a charging indian from a range of less then twenty feet and due to it having not enough knockdown power he had his head removed with the opponents sword. After that incident and other simmilar ones the british looked around for a hand gun that would put guys down when they were shot with it.

my favs would be
1) pistol: webley
2)SMG: the owen gun
3) rifle: SMLE enfield no1 mk3 or the mk4
4)LMG: the bren light machine gun (bren gun)
5)HMG:The Vickers heavy machine gun

i'd pick the SMLE over other rifles because of its faster and better handling qualities.
1) you can stop halfway thru a mag and reload if you have to.
2) stripper clips for easy and quick reloading.
3) 10 round magazine.
4) the mad minute qualification was 15 aimed shots a minute at a 20 inch circle at 200 yards. have seen ex soldiers shoot up to 40 rounds a minute during rapidfire with them so you can imagine what a well trained company could do with them.

have yet to see a ww2 rifle that can match it

SHERMAN · June 29th, 2004

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my favs would be
1) pistol: webley
2)SMG: the owen gun
3) rifle: SMLE enfield no1 mk3 or the mk4
4)LMG: the bren light machine gun (bren gun)
5)HMG:The Vickers heavy machine gun

Am I the only one who sees a pattern?

bush musketeer · June 30th, 2004

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Originally Posted by sherman105

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my favs would be
1) pistol: webley
2)SMG: the owen gun
3) rifle: SMLE enfield no1 mk3 or the mk4
4)LMG: the bren light machine gun (bren gun)
5)HMG:The Vickers heavy machine gun

Am I the only one who sees a pattern?

well the owen gun is aussie designed and built so they ain't all english weapons

C/2nd Lt Robot · June 30th, 2004

M1 Garand

SHERMAN · June 30th, 2004

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well the owen gun is aussie designed and built so they ain't all english weapons

Ha! Common, the one thats not English is from one of the Commonwelth members.... You must be joking.

Maciste · June 30th, 2004

Sherman105, though the Mauser 98k is a reeeaal good rifle I hadn't chose it because the Enfield wins in terms of rapidfiring and the Mosin-Nagant wins on his dependability on terrific battle conditions. I do not mean that the German was a bad rifle, of course, and there were a lot of worse rifles in other countries... By the way, I'd like if anyone could answer me two questions:
1) I've read somewhere that the elderly French rifle Lebel Berthier 1886 equipped still some units at the beginning of Word War II. Is that true?

2) I'd like to fin some technical data about the Jorgensen rifle, which equipped both the Dutch and Norwegian forces (if I'm not mistaken). Where can I get it?

Thank you, boys.

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bush musketeer Optio	Post; best guns of ww2 i'd have to agree with maciste about the webley, it may of been heavy but it was one of the most dependable revolvers ever made. the earlier models were useful in combat because of there heavy .455 caliber. it was also made in .38 cal. The reason the .455 cal was chosen was due to an incident in india when an english officer fired 6 .32 cal rounds into a charging indian from a range of less then twenty feet and due to it having not enough knockdown power he had his head removed with the opponents sword. After that incident and other simmilar ones the british looked around for a hand gun that would put guys down when they were shot with it. my favs would be 1) pistol: webley 2)SMG: the owen gun 3) rifle: SMLE enfield no1 mk3 or the mk4 4)LMG: the bren light machine gun (bren gun) 5)HMG:The Vickers heavy machine gun i'd pick the SMLE over other rifles because of its faster and better handling qualities. 1) you can stop halfway thru a mag and reload if you have to. 2) stripper clips for easy and quick reloading. 3) 10 round magazine. 4) the mad minute qualification was 15 aimed shots a minute at a 20 inch circle at 200 yards. have seen ex soldiers shoot up to 40 rounds a minute during rapidfire with them so you can imagine what a well trained company could do with them. have yet to see a ww2 rifle that can match it __________________ Although our task was never easy, it was made less difficult by the patriotism and passionate valour of the Australians, Which served as an example to the whole world, you saved Amiens, you saved France. Feild Marshal Ferdinand Foch 1918

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C/2nd Lt Robot Tribunus Laticlavius	M1 Garand __________________ C/Capt "Robot", CAP (ret) NBB '06 Alpha Flight NBB '07 Delta Flight

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Maciste Milites Gregarius	Sherman105, though the Mauser 98k is a reeeaal good rifle I hadn't chose it because the Enfield wins in terms of rapidfiring and the Mosin-Nagant wins on his dependability on terrific battle conditions. I do not mean that the German was a bad rifle, of course, and there were a lot of worse rifles in other countries... By the way, I'd like if anyone could answer me two questions: 1) I've read somewhere that the elderly French rifle Lebel Berthier 1886 equipped still some units at the beginning of Word War II. Is that true? 2) I'd like to fin some technical data about the Jorgensen rifle, which equipped both the Dutch and Norwegian forces (if I'm not mistaken). Where can I get it? Thank you, boys.

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