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| Nuclear Duck Hunter ![]() | Post; Gun remark makes outdoorsman an outcastHas anyone read this article yet? I don't know much about the writer but as the article states, these are critical times and gunowners are pretty touchy about being called terrorists. But, again, it sounds like he was a victim of overreaction by gunowners. Read the article and see which way you go on this. Gun remark makes outdoorsman an outcast Criticism of hunters who use assault rifles puts writer’s career in jeopardy By Blaine Harden Updated: 11:22 p.m. CT Feb 23, 2007 - Modern hunters rarely become more famous than Jim Zumbo. A mustachioed, barrel-chested outdoors entrepreneur who lives in a log cabin near Yellowstone National Park, he has spent much of his life writing for prominent outdoors magazines, delivering lectures across the country and starring in cable TV shows about big-game hunting in the West. Zumbo's fame, however, has turned to black-bordered infamy within America's gun culture -- and his multimedia success has come undone. It all happened in the past week, after he publicly criticized the use of military-style assault rifles by hunters, especially those gunning for prairie dogs. "Excuse me, maybe I'm a traditionalist, but I see no place for these weapons among our hunting fraternity," Zumbo wrote in his blog on the Outdoor Life Web site. The Feb. 16 posting has since been taken down. "As hunters, we don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them. . . . I'll go so far as to call them 'terrorist' rifles." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17307316/?GT1=9033
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I would like to see the entire article he wrote. Some of it may be taken out of context. All in all I agree with the first statement. Perhaps the second could have been worded differently but I don't see what the bruhaha is all about.
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | One dissenter from within will bring you down faster than 100 from without. Jump on this man and keep jumping until he whimpers like a whipped dog. Having seen what happened here in Australia, believe me, "You don't want to go down that road".
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Anyway back to the story it has to be one of the biggest over reactions on a subject to date and that sort of thing has a nasty tendency to backfire however I agree with Missileer it looks like a case of some poorly chosen words and a massive overreaction.
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| Tribunus Laticlavius | Who would want to hunt with an assault rifle? 5.56x45mm is not a great choice for hunters. Now, a 7.62x39mm or 7.62x51mm rifle like an SKS or FAL, that would be nice. Just makes the hunter's job easier. I've always considered the weapon you use to be the setting for diffculty. If you want a challenge, use a single-shot bolt action. If you just want to shoot some animals, bring a battle rifle.
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| Milforum's Bouncer | The man was a professional writer... "poorly chosen words" hell no, "overreaction" possibly.
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| Optio | Post; Gun remark makes outdoorsman an outcastThe blog in question strikes me as gun snob elitism. This guy must have been living in a bubble for the last 15 years to not know how popular "terrorist rifles" had become in American gun and hunting cultures. The complete blog entry: Quote:
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7.62x39 is also a good deer cartridge. My deer rifle is an SKS. After all, Zumbo was hunting Cayotes with .17 caliber rounds when he learned AR-15s were being used also. Last edited by Missileer; February 26th, 2007 at 01:45. Reason: Double Post. Use the edit command instead. | |||
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| 100% Space Shuttle Door Gunner | Jim Zumbo's article was an insult to millions of firearm owners. He was sponsored by Outdoor Life, Remington, Gerber Knife, and a couple of other companies. Also he wrote for the NRA. His entire article was written as if the Brady Bunch or Ted kennedy wrote it. He claimed that AR-15s are not used for hunts. Which I can disprove in twenty seconds ![]() He said that AR-15 are "terrorist rifles", that all rifles like the AR-15 (AK series, FN FAL, CETME, M-14, M1 Carbine, etc...) should be banned from ownership and from the legal use of hunting. Well, in response the gun owning community wrote to him and all of his employeers tell them that we will boycott their products unless they fire him. Here is what Remington said... Quote:
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