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February 26th, 2007   Post 11
Wallabies
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50 years ago you would be labelled a communist if you used an AK.
 
February 26th, 2007   Post 12
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No you wouldn't... 50 years ago folks would've gone nuts trying to look at a AK series rifle. The soviets keep them top secert to the point of picking up the shell casings from the firing range and having the soldier that were issued them keep them in tear away burlap sacks so civilians and foriegners couldn't take photos of them.

If I had a AK-47 rifle in 1957, the firearm's world would of thought me as a God. No one knew what a AK-47 was.....

Next time you make a comment, make sure it makes sense.
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February 26th, 2007   Post 13
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Russia can spy on splitting the atom but America can't spy on something that was produced in the millions?
 
February 26th, 2007   Post 14
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The soviets got the info of the bomb by insiders working on the bomb in American and England. Did you ever here of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. They gave the Soviets America's Nuclear secerts. They were tried for treason and sentenced to death. Once again....

Next time you make a comment, make sure it makes sense.

I guess you failed History.
 
February 26th, 2007   Post 15
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That's what I meant mate, most spies were native to the country the spying was occuring too.
 
February 26th, 2007   Post 16
WNxRogue
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5.56X45mm
The soviets got the info of the bomb by insiders working on the bomb in American and England. Did you ever here of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. They gave the Soviets America's Nuclear secerts. They were tried for treason and sentenced to death. Once again....

Next time you make a comment, make sure it makes sense.

I guess you failed History.
Actually, Klaus Fuchs, Donald Maclean and Theodore Alvin Hall gave much more information to the soviets about our nuclear secrets than the Rosenbergs. Klaus gave the most information, and he was arrested for espionage and give 14 years in jail, compared to the relative unimportance of the data given by the Rosenbergs, and they were give the death sentence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethel_a...us_revelations
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February 26th, 2007   Post 17
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The Rosenbergs didn't even work on the Manhattan Project, they aquired their intel via secondary sources. Now, the main weapon for an army is pretty hard to hide.
 
February 26th, 2007   Post 18
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No it's not. When you are a nation with no freedom of the press, a secert police running around, and lastly a government in which everyone is watching each other.

Lastly, during that time period the SKS Carbine was in production to throw off the ideas of the western powers. The resaon why so many nations received SKS Carbines is because while it was a new design it wasn't revolutionary. SKS Carbines were being studied by Western nations because that was the firearm that was receiving all the news from the Soviet Armed Forces.

Germany kept the STG 44 a secert until we got them in out hands through the soviets.

The People Republic of China kept their new bullpup, the QBZ-95 secert untill they rolled in their troops into Hong Kong after the brits gave it up. The Chi-Coms have been working on it since 1995 but the western world did not learn about it since the PRC Troops rolled into town with them live on CNN.
 
February 28th, 2007   Post 19
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My folks used to own a place in upstate NY. Lots of hunters up there. Mostly for deer, although there are short seasons for Moose, coyote, and even Black Bear. Turkey and smaller game birds as well. Most common rifles were 30-30 or 30-60.

In the 20 years they had the house, I don't recall a single time I saw a hunter carrying a military style assault rifle. So I think Mr Zumbo's remarks were on the level, at least about the part when he said a military assault rifle wasn't needed for hunting.

The 5.56mm in particular is not a hunting munition (unless the prey walks upright on two legs).
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Last edited by mmarsh; February 28th, 2007 at 13:48.
 
February 28th, 2007   Post 20
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There are many popular rifle chambered in the 5.56x45mm caliber. Remington 700 Bolt Action Rifle, Ruger M77 Bolt Action Rifle, Winchester Model 70 Bolt Action Rifle, Savage Bolt Action Rifle, Steven's Bolt Action Rifle, Ruger Mini-14, AR-15....

All of those use the civilian version of the 5.56x45mm cartridge. The .223 Remington. The AR-15 is a very popular rifle used in varmit hunting and small game hutning like hog.

I guess I need to post another photo of another hunt with a AR-15

 



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