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June 26th, 2008   Post 1
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Post; Gun Grab in N.O.


Has anyone seen this? It stinks of a gun grab.

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June 26th, 2008   Post 2
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I've heard of it. It's obviously unconstitutional....
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June 26th, 2008   Post 3
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I hadn't heard of that.....
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June 26th, 2008   Post 4
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I'm not being facetious here, but it seems to me that there is a lot of news we get here in Australia that is not shown in the US. A similar story was shown here about 6 weeks after Katrina and it was as much as admitted by some bloke in the national Guard that it was to stop the possibility of disgruntled taxpayers taking the law into their own hands.

The way the whole issue was, and is being still handled should be a national disgrace especially in the face of some reporting into the plight of some Chinese earthquake victims.
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June 27th, 2008   Post 5
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It happened. I saw it happen. Didn't agree with it then. Don't agree with it now.
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June 27th, 2008   Post 6
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That's what happens when you have too many cops who don't have a brain and the government is asked to micromanage everyone's lives.
I think it's a personal right to stay in your home if you feel that place is the safest place for yourself.
Sometimes the whole "just doing my job" is a pack of crap. I can't believe this happened, yet I'm not surprised it happened. It's the new America. I am very disappointed and saddened at the same time.
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June 27th, 2008   Post 7
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There were people in perfectly dry areas staying in their homes and they were relocated along with everyone else. And you know they weren't taking good care of any guns they confiscated.

I guess it's just a difference of opinion on one thing. Who do you trust, cops who want your guns, rampant looters, or your armed neighbor? I mean, taking peoples' guns during a crisis like that is the worst time to take them. Gee, there are people running around in groups robbing homes amidst the confusion, let's take away everyone's only protection!
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June 27th, 2008   Post 8
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It was a disgusting and unconstitutional panic from inept "leaders" that never gave 2 bits about rights, anyway.

Here's my thing: If I told my employee to go to your home and steal your gun, would I not be criminally liable for conspiracy to commit theft? So why are the police chief, the mayor, and the military commanders that ordered the theft of legally owned firearms sitting in jail right now?
 
June 27th, 2008   Post 9
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Absolutely retarded.
I bet the cops didn't like doing it much either but they have to obey orders or else they get fired and their future is ruined because of the nonsense being on their permanent record if they were to tell whomever came up with the dumb idea to got to hell. I'm surprised they didn't try to have the police turn in their firearms as well, would have been just as retarded. Certain politicians would rather all of the criminals have guns but the good people that obey the law are not allowed to.
I know who I'm voting for.

I would say the mayor is appropriate. The military commanders and police chief were most likely following orders. If they were not, then I would say they should be with the mayor or whoever else had the authority to issue that retarded order. Granted you are suppose to follow orders but the key wording in that particular general oder is "Lawful order(s)."
Article 92 in the military is Failure to obey order or regulation, the first requirement to be charged with this is
(1) violates or fails to obey any lawful general order or regulation. The problem in the military is that they don't give a whole lot of instruction on how to challenge the lawfulness of certain orders you may have doubts about. As an officer this is difficult too without creating an altercation anyway. Of course, you can take the beef through the chain of command with both organizations but each time you step on someone's toes, you most likely made yourself a new enemy.
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June 27th, 2008   Post 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AikiRooster
Absolutely retarded.
I bet the cops didn't like doing it much either but they have to obey orders or else they get fired and their future is ruined because of the nonsense being on their permanent record if they were to tell whomever came up with the dumb idea to got to hell. I'm surprised they didn't try to have the police turn in their firearms as well, would have been just as retarded. Certain politicians would rather all of the criminals have guns but the good people that obey the law are not allowed to.
I know who I'm voting for.

I would say the mayor is appropriate. The military commanders and police chief were most likely following orders. If they were not, then I would say they should be with the mayor or whoever else had the authority to issue that retarded order. Granted you are suppose to follow orders but the key wording in that particular general oder is "Lawful orders."
Exactly: LAWFUL orders.

Following an order directly contradictory to the Constitution or the BOR should be an illegal act and, as such, punishable by criminal prosecution.
 



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