Topic: Grade your Military Report Cards. 2

the_13th_redneck · March 24th, 2005

North Korea's navy is a D Class. Basically in the event of a war, their Navy is almost a non-factor from day 1.

CABAL · March 24th, 2005

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Originally Posted by Xion

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Naval capabilities are somewhat the main reasons India became a Regional power in South East Asia.

India is a South Asian country...doesn't belong to south east asia

India doesn't have much influence over South East Asia except in the Bay of Bengal region ..countries like Myanmar and western Indonesia

The South Asian countries are Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Nepal, Maldives
All the above nations combined cannot match neither the amount nor the quality of india's armed forces
Now, i don't quite know what made you say only because of the Naval power India could become a regional power....

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Second of all India is not considered to be a land power like China and Russia

With the second largest army after China I don't quite agree with that.

I don't quite know how are you ppl grading these militaries...based on effective strength in a war ?...or based on the quality of equipment , training .etc ?

If you are grading them based on all the factors combined...then I don't agree with this --

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UK
Army A

India
Army B+

UK might have better equipment ...but the number is way too small to face a massive army
UK's main strength being an island nation lies in its navy
India's main strength lies in its army...doesn't face any naval threat like China (from Japan), etc..

Also I think you ppl are underestimating North Korea's navy with a D class grading.

I grade these armies through equipment, basic training, and Modern concepts of ORBAT. I'm not referring to the effectiveness of these armies in war. I can't judge upon their effectivenesss in battle because these nations were never involved in conflict between each other right now.

CABAL · March 24th, 2005

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Originally Posted by the_13th_redneck

North Korea's navy is a D Class. Basically in the event of a war, their Navy is almost a non-factor from day 1.

North Korea do have a Navy. Several Destroyers and numerous fast attack crafts. It is true that the North Korean Navy pose no threat to South Korea's Navy. There have been reports of South Korean Coast Guard Vessels sinking N. Korean attack crafts during 2002.

the_13th_redneck · March 24th, 2005

I was in Korea in 2002 when that attack happened. The North Koreans were upset that we were doing well in the World Cup so wanted to put or celebrations to a bit of a halt.
What I meant was non-factor was not that it's non existent. It's just that it's not a serious problem that needs dealing with in terms of being the navy itself. The only problem it poses is special forces infiltration. That is significant. But it is a special forces threat, not really a reason to raise the Navy's grade.

CABAL · March 24th, 2005

From what I have remembered several months ago. The estimated number of North Korean Special Forces soldiers is 500,000.

the_13th_redneck · March 24th, 2005

The numbers are misleading.
Some say it's over 100,000. Some say it's 50,000, others have curiously averaged it to 75,000.
So which is it?
We won't know.
I think the actual number of the BEST people will number probably closer to 20,000 at BEST. And the rest will probably be ranger-type units. And as for the rest of the 100,000, probably decoys.

Red_Army · March 24th, 2005

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Originally Posted by Knightraptor

I think the North Korean grading may need some evaluation...

If you are so sure North Korea doesn't have A-class soldiers, why not go to war with them and find out. Did I mention they are trained to fight to the death, unlike Iraqi soldiers! Their loyalty to Kim Jong Il is even more important than family. Their only weakness is their aging military equipment!

MadeInChina · March 24th, 2005

lol, im sure the average nk has more military experience than teh average sk

Big_Z · March 24th, 2005

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Originally Posted by Urbanboy

lol, im sure the average nk has more military experience than teh average sk

How do you figure?

Knightraptor · March 25th, 2005

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Originally Posted by Red_Army

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Originally Posted by Knightraptor

I think the North Korean grading may need some evaluation...

If you are so sure North Korea doesn't have A-class soldiers, why not go to war with them and find out. Did I mention they are trained to fight to the death, unlike Iraqi soldiers! Their loyalty to Kim Jong Il is even more important than family. Their only weakness is their aging military equipment!

Hey Red_Army, be like fonzi! Cool. So chill out :P

I'm not saying NK is a army you can sweep aside, i'm just saying its not an A-class army, since most of its equipment is outdated and such. And who would go to war just to see if "they have good soldiers."

March 24th, 2005	Post 11
the_13th_redneck No Chance Outside Gear	North Korea's navy is a D Class. Basically in the event of a war, their Navy is almost a non-factor from day 1. __________________ Sergeant 13th Redneck (RET) Republic of Korea Marine Corps TRESPASSERS WILL BE PROSTITUTED Next time you travel http://www.epictrip.com

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the_13th_redneck No Chance Outside Gear	I was in Korea in 2002 when that attack happened. The North Koreans were upset that we were doing well in the World Cup so wanted to put or celebrations to a bit of a halt. What I meant was non-factor was not that it's non existent. It's just that it's not a serious problem that needs dealing with in terms of being the navy itself. The only problem it poses is special forces infiltration. That is significant. But it is a special forces threat, not really a reason to raise the Navy's grade.

March 24th, 2005	Post 15
CABAL Primus Pilus Gear	From what I have remembered several months ago. The estimated number of North Korean Special Forces soldiers is 500,000.

March 24th, 2005	Post 16
the_13th_redneck No Chance Outside Gear	The numbers are misleading. Some say it's over 100,000. Some say it's 50,000, others have curiously averaged it to 75,000. So which is it? We won't know. I think the actual number of the BEST people will number probably closer to 20,000 at BEST. And the rest will probably be ranger-type units. And as for the rest of the 100,000, probably decoys.