Originally Posted by tomtom22

Money talks.

Apparently stocks shares at $350 per isn't enough for these greedy sons of..... Now they've gone against their own slogan and sold their dignity and self-respect...

every country has its own law. in china, you may not have the freedom of disrepecting the elder or teacher or president. or breaking law, disrupt social harmony and stability. but you enjoy greater freedom in some ohter area as long as you were abide by law.

Originally Posted by achinese

the evil3 were holding a meeting. have fun, bye

Evil3? I thought Hu was in Saudi Arabia right now?

Current events... not likely to be up to snuff mate.

Originally Posted by bulldogg

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Apparently so but it in no way excuses the behaviour of these American companies. I say its time to send the Russian immigrant who started Google BACK to Russia since he seems more ideologically suited for his former country than his adopted one.

People are losing their freedom and their lives as a DIRECT result of their actions and they are NOT being held accountable.

I agree, i don't know how these people could sleep at night.

I agree, its sickening. Though I find the fact that Yahoo discloses information about journalists much worse than the google thing. I mean, they don't make censorship any worse than it already is, they're just making business in such an environment. Not very noble though.

Anyway, it will always be possible for the computer-literate to circumvent such mechanisms. People who publish their opinion just need to take security measures so they don't depend on the goodwill of those folks at google or yahoo.

"The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." John Gilmore (EFF)

Originally Posted by achinese

every country has its own law. in china, you may not have the freedom of disrepecting the elder or teacher or president. or breaking law, disrupt social harmony and stability. but you enjoy greater freedom in some ohter area as long as you were abide by law.

as i have said earlier, china is confucious socioty who put more emphasis on social harmony instead of wild freedom like anarchy. even in america, someone get arrest for only blaming bush or anti-war compaign,in this sense, american is like china. in economic sense, china still enjoy greater freedom than other.

someone get arrest for only blaming bush or anti-war compaign

Example please?

wild freedom

Yeh censoring people who disagree = wild freedom. Kinda like running through the streets rapeing strangers.

Originally Posted by achinese

as i have said earlier, china is confucious socioty who put more emphasis on social harmony instead of wild freedom like anarchy. even in america, someone get arrest for only blaming bush or anti-war compaign,in this sense, american is like china. in economic sense, china still enjoy greater freedom than other.

Anarchy in the US?!! When did this happen?! i don't remember martial law being declared on any city or town in the US for the last 100+ years. I don't recall any event in US history where the Army was sent in to massacre innocent students protesting peacefully... As for anti-Bush/government/war statements/campaigns, heheh even the late night talk show hosts do that and yet I still see them in the air...

Originally Posted by achinese

as i have said earlier, china is confucious socioty who put more emphasis on social harmony instead of wild freedom like anarchy.

Ok, but would you say that it is the confucian way to put people in jail because they pointed out problems in their homeland? Do you think forbidding people to speak their minds is a good way to propagate harmony?

I would think in a harmonious, confucian society the state doesn't rely heavily on forbiddance and punishment. I read the following in an article about confucianism: Confucius believed formal laws were only used to oppress people by régimes, while moral principles depended on each person's free will. The use of penal law, reasoned Confucius, would lead to people avoiding punishments and lacking a sense of shame. Leadership with virtue and morality, practised and preached, would have the opposite outcome, leaving people get on with life in an orderly fashion and staying within what is accepted as moral and decent.