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January 21st, 2010   #201
perseus
 
 
People

OK I give up if there is anything not addressed on here come back

http://www.skepticalscience.com/argument.php


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January 21st, 2010   #202
perseus
 
 
I know I shouldn't but

Quote:
From Ben Goldacre - Bad science

Among all these, reigning supreme, is the "zombie argument": arguments which survive to be raised again, for eternity, no matter how many times they are shot down. "Homeopathy worked for me," and the rest.

Zombie arguments survive, immortal and resistant to all refutation, because they do not live or die by the normal standards of mortal arguments. There's a huge list of them at realclimate.org, with refutations. There are huge lists of them everywhere. It makes no difference.

"CO2 isn't an important greenhouse gas", "Global warming is down to the sun", "what about the cooling in the 1940s?" says your party bore. "Well," you reply, "since the last time you raised this, I checked, and there were loads of sulphites in the air in the 1940s to block out the sun, made from the slightly different kind of industrial pollution we had then, and the odd volcano, so that's been answered already, ages ago."

And they knew that. And you know they knew you could find out, but they went ahead anyway and wasted your time, and worse than that, you both know they're going to do it again, to some other poor sap. And that is rude

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...climate-change

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January 21st, 2010   #203
senojekips
 
 
It's great proof of the lengths that the supporters will go to, to support an otherwise unproven argument. They feel this desperate need to convince others that "they" are right. Their main failing being that there are many of their own kind who disagree with them as to the causes.

"Bad Science",... Haha, it's a bit like "Bad art" isn't it? Until there is more that just subjective opinion, it's all moot.

All this garbage is a lot like the argument provided by christians to support "god". "But of course there is a god,... the bible says so". Idiots......

Repetition, ad infinitum, does not give added credibility.


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January 21st, 2010   #204
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by perseus
"CO2 isn't an important greenhouse gas", "Global warming is down to the sun", "what about the cooling in the 1940s?" says your party bore. "Well," you reply, "since the last time you raised this, I checked, and there were loads of sulphites in the air in the 1940s to block out the sun, made from the slightly different kind of industrial pollution we had then, and the odd volcano, so that's been answered already, ages ago."
Hang on a second I am going to refute this and say that if we did not have a sun we would not have warming therefore the sun is the ultimate cause of the problem.



Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities has the power to make you commit injustices. - Voltaire 1694-1778
 
January 22nd, 2010   #205
captiva303
 
 
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Hock...te-change.html

did you read this article?


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January 22nd, 2010   #206
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by captiva303
Did you see the smiley face?
 
January 22nd, 2010   #207
captiva303
 
 
huh?????????????
 
January 23rd, 2010   #208
senojekips
 
 
Australia's hottest official daytime temperature was recorded at Cloncurry in 1886, (or thereabouts) it was 53.8 deg C or 126 deg F.

I guess we are in a mini ice age now.

Imagine the panic these Global Warming twits could have raised if they were about then..... Squarrrrk,.... squarrrk,.... quick there's gotta be a way we can squeeze some research grants out of this,....

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January 23rd, 2010   #209
MontyB
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by senojekips
Australia's hottest official daytime temperature was recorded at Cloncurry in 1886, (or thereabouts) it was 53.8 deg C or 126 deg F.

I guess we are in a mini ice age now.

Imagine the panic these Global Warming twits could have raised if they were about then..... Squarrrrk,.... squarrrk,.... quick there's gotta be a way we can squeeze some research grants out of this,....
I know this will illicit a negative response but do you have any idea what is being discussed here?
Individual hottest and coldest days are meaningless in this process (just because it is hot or cold today does not prove or disprove Climate Change), there will be hotter and colder days but all that really matters is the average temperature and how it compares to previous and future averages.
 
January 23rd, 2010   #210
senojekips
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyB
I know this will illicit a negative response but do you have any idea what is being discussed here?
Individual hottest and coldest days are meaningless in this process (just because it is hot or cold today does not prove or disprove Climate Change), there will be hotter and colder days but all that really matters is the average temperature and how it compares to previous and future averages.
I know exactly what is going on Monty, that's why I can't resist pointing out the anomalies, the exceptions that break the rule, because it is the inverse of the argument being presented by the panic merchants. They seize on individual events with the idea that a lot of individual events shows a trend and if i wished to be so pedantic, I could do the same. But because I know that it is pointless wasting my time on the converted I just point out the highlights.

It's quite simple really, surely these persons with their ever so analytical minds could connect the dots if they wanted to, but the fact is that they don't want to, so detail is pointless.

Is it not too much to assume that if we are in a "real" period of Global Warming, that the previous hottest recorded daytime temperature would have been exceeded in the intervening 120 odd years?

The fact is that it is all crap.
 



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