Originally Posted by Missileer

I don't know, so many factors were against the ANZAC forces. .

The ANZAC's only made up a minority of the Allied forces at Gallipoli ( At their maximum strength they had less than 2 divisions)

The casualities suffered by the Allied forces were as follows ,

Britain, 119,696 killed, wounded, or missing.

ANZAC 33,665

French 27,004

Originally Posted by godofthunder9010

The primary perpetrators and combatants for that successful fight agaist the Ottomans were Arabs. .

Nonsense .
That's a bit like saying that it was the Free French who were responsible for the defeat of the German forces in Normandy in 1944

Not really. If memory serves me correct it was Arab forces with British advisers that had the most success against the Ottomans.

Originally Posted by Damien435

Not really. If memory serves me correct it was Arab forces with British advisers that had the most success against the Ottomans.

Actually, your memory has been watching too many Hollywood movies.

There were a million British Empire troops fighting in the Middle East in 1918, and only thirty-five hundred Arabs.

re, The Lawrence of Arabia myth

http://www.newcriterion.com/archive/10/sept91/fromkin.htm

The Arabs did play a part in disrupting the Turkish forces, but did not defeat them. The British Empire did.

I dont think you can make Churchill the scapegoat.

Fail was down to a number of reasons:
1, Strategy
2, Not properly resourced
3, Failure to exploit an advantage (common in WW1)
4, Leadership

If you dont get angry I wanna add somethin to this thread.

Turkish leader Kemal Atatürk's say about the Anzacs who dead in Gallipoli:

"After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well"

No Aussie soldier is angry at hearing that. That particular quote from Ataturk is very moving, and it's probably because of this that the Aussies and Turks are very close now.

This is the full quote
Those heroes that shed their blood
And lost their lives:
You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country,
Therefore rest in peace.
There is no difference between the Johnnies
And the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side,
Here in this country of ours.
You, the mothers,
Who sent your sons to faraway countries,
Wipe away your tears.
Your sons are now lying in our bosom
And are now at peace.
After having lost their lives on this land they have
Become our sons as well.

Just to invade your thread for a minute, has anyone here actually been to Gallipoli? if so what kind of thing are there, any meuseums etc

Just read that the Gallipoli campaign included the first supply drop from the air to cut off troops.
Always thought that wasnt untill WW2

iv always wanted to visit there to see the landscape