About Fuel Air Bomb in WW2? Page 2
|February 10th, 2006||#11|
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|December 20th, 2008||#12|
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Its not that they did'nt know about it...its just that the way planes were shot down percluded the safe use of one.
a bomber could carry the device sure. but no one at that time could make one safe enough so that despite being holed by ball round ammo (cannon or machine gun) it wouldnt go off. its gas under pressure. a lot of gas. a whole lot of pressure.
lots of japaneese fighters. lots of german fighters. fighters have big guns and cannons on them. one round from these S.O.Bs through that fuel bomb, and you had instant fried aircraft. or at worst, a projectile that blew itself out the side of the aircraft.
thats why they started off with incinderys and napalm. a lot more safer to carry.
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Last edited by Mark Conley; December 20th, 2008 at 18:45..
|December 21st, 2008||#13|
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The idea of a bomber worrying about any kind of bomb going off when attacked by a fighter might preclude their use in the first place.
|December 22nd, 2008||#14|
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Ok..now i am really really puzzled...
the 22 years of working in an industry where high pressure flasks were present suggests that putting any kind of hole in any high pressure flask is a definite no-no. even the low (low?) pressure flasks for firemen in their scba set ups are treated with quite a bit of respect by their wearers.
a military round in WW II wasnt anything to sneeze at. this ammo was designed to bring down aircraft. the german cannon rounds even had explosive heads. do you think for one second if you shot at a high pressure cylinder that something nasty wasnt going to happen?
http://www.spirig.org/fileadmin/medi...detonation.pdf heres a link to a accident that happened with high pressure bottles. now, all this bottle did was torpedo. 200 meters. thats a lot of energy. and this was just a bursting accident. it wasnt mechanically brought on.
the shark in jaws wasnt blown up by a shot at tank exploding. the shark blew up because a charge on the tank from a special effects man liberated all the gas (air) stored at 4500 pound per square inch at once. its quite a release of energy.
now imagine all that gas in a tank, trying to escape in an aircraft. if the flask only torpedoed, it would just punch through the side and go out the side of the aircraft. if they werent lucky, then it might burst and release all the gas at once. ever over inflated a ballon with high pressure air? although most aircraft in WWII werent pressurized, the holes in the fusalage wouldnt be big enough to allow all that expansion to be released gently...something else would blow.
I dont think it was thought of something bad happening..it is the bad happening.
|December 22nd, 2008||#15|
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That is what the scene was. (Special effects are supposed to be spectacular not necessarily accurate to real life)
It was supposed to be a scuba tank cylinder.
It was not a 4500lb charged cylinder it was a special effect to look like a high pressure cylinder. A Scuba tank is normally charged to no more than 1800lbs. And the cylinder was not a real charged scuba tank. Special effects people maybe crazy, but we are not stupid. Plus the fact that the safety of everyone on a set is paramount. (If we kill the stars the movie stops shooting and we loose our jobs.)
Since the topic is about fuel/air bombs, it should be noted that the first test of a fuel/air bomb was done by the Germans in 1944. By then they had no time to get it into production and no delivery systems left to use it.
Just for information having worked in the special effects industry for years I am perfectly aware of how most effects are accomplished.
Cylinders having their valves broken off can torpedo.
Cylinders properly restrained will go no where. Bombs in bomb bays are restrained until released.
|December 26th, 2008||#17|
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The Lancaster bomber could carry a huge load and often carried a bomb weighing over 22.000 lbs. Now you are talking about what would happen if a cannon shell hit one of these fuel bombs, well I would imagine it would go bang rather like if that cannon shell hit a normal bomb, one way or the other the crew of that bomber would become just another statistic on a memorial wall
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