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February 5th, 2009   #1
edgenaka
 

French foreign legion info


I have been looking at my options as far as joining the service and due to my juvenile charges the army and the marines have both denied my enlistment one day i was joking around with some friends and one suggested the FFL after doing some research and nobody has much info on them i mean a few things but what my real question is will i still get in with my charges the training i can handle i like pain and to be tested and as far as severing ties for some time i can handle that so i was just wondering does anybody have any legit info personal experience would be the best
 
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February 5th, 2009   #2
senojekips
 
 
From a documentary made about three years ago I'd say that the truth is, that they treat you like sh!t. But if you have the personality where you like physical and mental abuse, boredom, and revel in the thought that it makes you somehow "different", I'd say go for it

Don't fall for the old "espirit de corps" and travel, crap, if that's all you want you can join Greenpeace.


"I am totally responsible for what I write,... however I cannot be held responsible for your complete inability to understand"

 
February 5th, 2009   #3
Mayser
 
 
could look at Blackwater....u are coming up on 21, so u could look into it....


Nemo vir est qui mundum non reddat meliorem

(What man is a man who does not make the world better?)
 
February 5th, 2009   #4
senojekips
 
 
Any firm (e.g. Blackwater) that would hire you for that type of work without practical military experience is merely hiring cannon fodder, Run,... run as fast as you can.

Hot war zones are no place for learners.
 
February 5th, 2009   #5
BritinAfrica
 
 
I remember an article regarding an ex British Royal Marine or Paratrooper who served with the French Foreign Legion, he stated he wasnt impressed with their ability or command and structure.

Senojekips is right, anyone willing to take you on without military experience is looking for as he said "Cannon Fodder."


I try to be the man my dog thinks I am.
 
February 5th, 2009   #6
mmarsh
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by edgenaka
I have been looking at my options as far as joining the service and due to my juvenile charges the army and the marines have both denied my enlistment one day i was joking around with some friends and one suggested the FFL after doing some research and nobody has much info on them i mean a few things but what my real question is will i still get in with my charges the training i can handle i like pain and to be tested and as far as severing ties for some time i can handle that so i was just wondering does anybody have any legit info personal experience would be the best
I can give you some help you with this, my soon-to-be-father in law is a retired French Army Colonel who has worked directly with FFL parachute companies. I can answer a few (but not all) questions here, if you need anything more specific I can ask my father in law and Ill get back to you. I cannot get you into the FFL, (nor will I try).

(To the Mods: I admit I have not been in the service myself, and I generally avoid this forum. But the information I am giving is legit from a family source. I would not volunteer this info if I didn't have access to this information). PM me if this is a problem.

1. First of all, are you an American citizen? If so that could be bad because you can technically lose your citizenship by enlisting in a Foreign Military. Yet *I think* there is an exemption for the FFL as Americans do serve in it. However, Since I am not 100% certain of this myself and won't vouch for it so you will need to ask the US State Department before you go any further!!!

2. As to the question of your criminal record. Yes, you can join the FFL with a criminal record but there are somethings you should know. Most importantly, if you have a criminal record or are wanted by the autorities YOU MUST TELL THE FFL EVERYTHING DURING THE INTERVIEW. Minor Crimes can be overlooked, even *certain* Felonies. Serious Felonies (violent, drug offenses, etc) however will not be tolerated, and they DO check. My suggestion would be to call the FFL recruiting office and explain your exact situation, they will tell you if you are eligible or not. DO NOT TRY TO LIE OR BE DISHONEST TO THEM. The FFL follows a strict honor code, punishment for violating the code is severe and chances are they will find out if you try to hide something. Just don't do it.

Contact info is here

http://www.legion-recrute.com/en/contact.php

Also if you have been sentenced to Prison in another country, service in the FFL will not exclude you from your arrest or sentence there, UNLESS the crimes were committed within the French Republic. In this case years in the FFL can (not in every case) be exchanged on a certain ratio (which I would have to check for you). However at the completion of your service you can apply for French citizenship and your record will be clean. My father-in-law says that many recruits are people trying to get a new start for errors made in the past.

One final point. The FFL standards and discipline are particularly strict, this is not the regular French Army or even the US Marines. I'll be frank, Legionnaire Life is quite Spartan and many of the recruits have prior military experience including some very unpleasant parts of the world where Americans are not liked. Be sure you want to do this, because once you have signed on your in it for the full 5 years. Think hard before doing this, this isnt Hollywood, forget your pre-conceived notions. It is a hard but rewarding life.

If you need other info, reply or send me a PM. I can check my inlaws for any other questions you might have.


P.S

I found this for you from a magazine, just to let you know what you are in for...

http://www.military.com/news/article...w.html?wh=news


"My center is giving way, my right is in retreat situation excellent. I shall attack." -Foch

I am from NYC. I fly a French flag because I work in Paris.

Last edited by mmarsh; February 6th, 2009 at 00:49..
 
February 6th, 2009   #7
Warwick
 
Go to Cervens net.com its a FFL website which can set you straight.
 
February 6th, 2009   #8
03USMC
 
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayser
could look at Blackwater....u are coming up on 21, so u could look into it....

He doesn't have the bonafides for Blackwater,3C or any PMC that is on the up and up.


Sgt. Rafael Peralta ,United States Marine Corps
Company A, 1st Bn, 3rd Marine Regt, 3rd Marine Divison

We will never forget your valor and sacrifice.

Semper Fi !
 
September 20th, 2010   #9
Camelman
 
 

Reconsider info


Quote:
Originally Posted by edgenaka
I have been looking at my options as far as joining the service and due to my juvenile charges the army and the marines have both denied my enlistment one day i was joking around with some friends and one suggested the FFL after doing some research and nobody has much info on them i mean a few things but what my real question is will i still get in with my charges the training i can handle i like pain and to be tested and as far as severing ties for some time i can handle that so i was just wondering does anybody have any legit info personal experience would be the best
I have personal experience and would urge you to re-consider, this is not for you. The Legion is not for people who have "options". Please try to reconsider about making bold statements regarding pain and training you can handle and the like, this is a very serious no looking back engagement in which you face a reasonable expectation of death in the bonds of a foreign service. People with any kind of ties at all or anything going for them in life do not choose this path. The address of Colonel Negrier is still inscribed for all to see who enter, "You are Legionaires and solders who are meant for death and I am sending you where you can die." I do not wish to offend you in any way but your life lies before you and you can put the past behind and resculpt your self into the kind of person you want to be, the military is not the only path to being a decent and productive person. If in the end, you choose this path, you need merely to show up at the recruiting center in France and they will do the rest but trust me, you can better invest five years of your life. regards.
By the way, you do not forfeit your citizenship for serving with the French or with the Israelis or with the British. The people who run afoul of this are those who take up arms against American interests or mis guided private personnel who wind up in the employ of illegal enterprises or who commit crimes while providing security services.

Last edited by tomtom22; May 16th, 2011 at 04:38..
 
May 16th, 2011   #10
whiterabbit
 
 
Spain Has a foreign legion too.
 



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