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March 15th, 2008   Post 11
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Originally Posted by major liability
P90 due to its short length, maybe Steyr AUG A2 with a 14" barrel if you want ammo commonality with everyone else.

By the way, what is the current armament for US tank crews? My friend is shipping off to train to be part of an Army Abrams crew, and he says they get M4s or M240s.
M-4 and M-9, M240 is a gunners coax and a loaders station weapon, thus deemed crew served weapons.
 
March 15th, 2008   Post 12
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My 12ga. with the 17" barrel.
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March 15th, 2008   Post 13
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Whatever you choose it should share common spares with other weapons issued within that force. Nothing is much use unless you have access to spares where ever you go.
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March 15th, 2008   Post 14
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Quote:
Whatever you choose it should share common spares with other weapons issued within that force. Nothing is much use unless you have access to spares where ever you go.
Thats not really an issue with armor since an armored unit usually has a lot of logistics with it anyways...Also if you choose a weapon thats reasonably reliable, you wont have much need for spares, since tank crews rarely fire their personal fire arm....
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March 15th, 2008   Post 15
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L22A2 carbine, as issued to Royal Armoured Corps tank crews in Iraq; note that it has a Picatinny rail above the front grip

Caliber: 5.56x45 NATO
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 780 mm (709 mm in Carbine variant)
Barrel length: 518 mm (442 mm in Carbine variant)
Weight: 4.13 kg (with SUSAT optical sight and no magazine); 5 kg with SUSAT and loaded with magazine with 30 rounds of ammunition
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Rate of fire: 650 rounds per minute
Effective range: about 500 meters (with SUSAT sights)

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Last edited by LeEnfield; March 15th, 2008 at 15:05.
 
March 15th, 2008   Post 16
major liability
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Yeah, really any compact bullpup carbine would fit the bill. MTAR-21, AUG with a short barrel, L22, etc.
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March 15th, 2008   Post 17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeEnfield
L22A2 carbine, as issued to Royal Armoured Corps tank crews in Iraq; note that it has a Picatinny rail above the front grip

Caliber: 5.56x45 NATO
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 780 mm (709 mm in Carbine variant)
Barrel length: 518 mm (442 mm in Carbine variant)
Weight: 4.13 kg (with SUSAT optical sight and no magazine); 5 kg with SUSAT and loaded with magazine with 30 rounds of ammunition
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds
Rate of fire: 650 rounds per minute
Effective range: about 500 meters (with SUSAT sights)

How bad the recoil is on this? The forearm grip must help. but I bet it kicks like an angry mule.
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March 15th, 2008   Post 18
major liability
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Nothing chambered for 5.56x45mm is going to have harsh recoil unless there's no stock or something.
 
March 15th, 2008   Post 19
LeEnfield
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There is very little kick from this gun, the grips are there for you to hold it firmly to improve the accuracy
 
March 21st, 2008   Post 20
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I'm really liking that bullpup, and the range is spectacular considering what it's used for.
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