Topic: Fighters or UAV's 2

Trevor · October 4th, 2004

Even if the UAVs can perform maneuvers that would be insurvivable by a human pilot, someone controlling from a remote staion would not be able to get the full effect of the dogfight, and possibly not be able to be as effective against the enemy.

rOk · October 4th, 2004

I'm devoted to fighters of course but in UAV's I see a potential to swarm(sp?) the enemy into submission kinda like WWII-thousands of aircraft in the sky...

Trevor · October 4th, 2004

I doubt swarming tactics will be used. The US wants a machine that can get the job done, and cheap. Having those things produced enough to be able to swarm, would be aweful pricey, not to mention how many mid-air collisions there would be.

rOk · October 4th, 2004

Let me rephrase

I meant swarming in a way that they would overstress the air defense.
And I'm quite positive that in formation flying these machines will have a good enough collision detection to avoid accidents.
Attack runs differ of course.

the_13th_redneck · October 4th, 2004

I think if you properly train the operator, he's going to get used to it.

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Originally Posted by Trevor

Even if the UAVs can perform maneuvers that would be insurvivable by a human pilot, someone controlling from a remote staion would not be able to get the full effect of the dogfight, and possibly not be able to be as effective against the enemy.

Shadowalker · October 4th, 2004

Visibility would probably be able to be improved if using a 3D system generated from pictures from the plane, 360 visibility and being able to look at whats above and below you, would probably put you at an advantage against a human pilot

c/Commander · October 5th, 2004

It's the difference between a flight simulator and a real aircraft tho. Even in the most realistic sim there is, you still have the feeling that you are in a simulator...and that takes some of the edge off.

Trevor · October 5th, 2004

It's a lot harder to fly in a simulator than a real aircraft. Flying a real aircraft is a dream compared to being in the simulator.

c/Commander · October 5th, 2004

My point is that the UAV will seem like that simulator to the people "flying" from the ground.

the_13th_redneck · October 5th, 2004

I think people will be able to improve situational awareness in the control room of a UAV.
Simply even with this little "flaw" the benefits of the UAV's potential are impssible to ignore.

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October 4th, 2004	Post 11
Trevor Tribuni Angusticlavii	Even if the UAVs can perform maneuvers that would be insurvivable by a human pilot, someone controlling from a remote staion would not be able to get the full effect of the dogfight, and possibly not be able to be as effective against the enemy. __________________ WO2 Trevor Perry, Squadron Deputy Commander 746 Lightning Hawk RCACS

October 4th, 2004	Post 12
rOk Centurion	I'm devoted to fighters of course but in UAV's I see a potential to swarm(sp?) the enemy into submission kinda like WWII-thousands of aircraft in the sky... __________________ I hear you...

October 5th, 2004	Post 17
c/Commander Primus Pilus Gear	It's the difference between a flight simulator and a real aircraft tho. Even in the most realistic sim there is, you still have the feeling that you are in a simulator...and that takes some of the edge off. __________________ Midshipman 3/C, USNR

October 4th, 2004	Post 13
Trevor Tribuni Angusticlavii	I doubt swarming tactics will be used. The US wants a machine that can get the job done, and cheap. Having those things produced enough to be able to swarm, would be aweful pricey, not to mention how many mid-air collisions there would be.

October 4th, 2004	Post 14
rOk Centurion	Let me rephrase I meant swarming in a way that they would overstress the air defense. And I'm quite positive that in formation flying these machines will have a good enough collision detection to avoid accidents. Attack runs differ of course.

October 4th, 2004	Post 16
Shadowalker Primus Pilus	Visibility would probably be able to be improved if using a 3D system generated from pictures from the plane, 360 visibility and being able to look at whats above and below you, would probably put you at an advantage against a human pilot

October 5th, 2004	Post 18
Trevor Tribuni Angusticlavii	It's a lot harder to fly in a simulator than a real aircraft. Flying a real aircraft is a dream compared to being in the simulator.

October 5th, 2004	Post 19
c/Commander Primus Pilus Gear	My point is that the UAV will seem like that simulator to the people "flying" from the ground.

October 5th, 2004	Post 20
the_13th_redneck No Chance Outside Gear	I think people will be able to improve situational awareness in the control room of a UAV. Simply even with this little "flaw" the benefits of the UAV's potential are impssible to ignore.